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“The effect of surrender for an accurate basic strategy player is to reduce the house edge by somewhere between 0.07% and 0.09% depending on the other rules of the game. If you are a $10 bettor, you should save about 50 cents an hour over the long run. While this improvement is small, every little bit helps. For a card counter, surrender is considerably more valuable for several reasons.”
What is the percentage of reduction if I am a card counter?
The amount of benefit surrender provides for a counter depends on almost everything that can change in the game, penetration, bet spread, etc. There is no convenient one-size-fits-all answer, and I don’t have an estimate at hand. If you need an answer, get some software to check your specific conditions.
Wait a min…is the advanced strategy card(s) what I think is is??? Is this the basic deviations based on true count on a card? Already bought three of the basic cards some time ago…I didn’t know what deviations were at the time…I do now…lol.
I’ve got a question regarding the charts. In the chart for the rules of: 6-deck, dealer hits on soft 17, double after split, late surrender allowed, peek, it says to double down on a soft 14 15 or 16 in certain scenarios, but what if they are 3+ card soft 14, 15, or 16s? (Then you CAN’T double down, of course.) Soooooo what happens then?
You’ll notice that some entries on the chart say “D”, while others say “Ds”.
“D” means Double if allowed, otherwise Hit. This is the most common doubling advice.
If you look at the chart for soft 18, you will find some exceptions.
Some of those decisions indicate “Ds”, which means Double if allowed, otherwise Stand.
ken …. in 6d s17 15vs 10 when there is a surrender first choice is surr or hit ?I saw a card that says 15 vs 10 stand at tc +4 and above and in how much – tc you prefer to hit than to surrender ?
This question was actually answered above. You can use the same indexes in a no-peek game, except ignore any that suggest splitting or doubling against a dealer ten or ace.
ok but what about the advanced strategy, how can i adjust to the count? Like, should i still stand a soft 18 against dealer A at TC>1 ? and hard 14,15,16 against dealer A is still stand at TC> 9 , 9 , 8 ? or any other changes? you know better
The question is are all your doubled and split bets vulnerable to an eventual dealer blackjack. If so, it’s a “no peek” game. Use the Strategy Engine set to No Peek to get the correct basic strategy.
So , in a game where the dealer gets only 1 card and he draws the other one only after every player stands (kinda the same as the “no peek” i guess) , what should we do? Should we still double 11 against that dealer’s Ace ? Does this affects other decisions against Ace ?
“The effect of surrender for an accurate basic strategy player is to reduce the house edge by somewhere between 0.07% and 0.09% depending on the other rules of the game. If you are a $10 bettor, you should save about 50 cents an hour over the long run. While this improvement is small, every little bit helps. For a card counter, surrender is considerably more valuable for several reasons.”
What is the percentage of reduction if I am a card counter?
The amount of benefit surrender provides for a counter depends on almost everything that can change in the game, penetration, bet spread, etc. There is no convenient one-size-fits-all answer, and I don’t have an estimate at hand. If you need an answer, get some software to check your specific conditions.
Doesn’t work with current version of .NET
That’s why it says to install the older version! It requires .NET framework version 1.1. Use the link in the article to find and install it.
Which would you indicate?
CVData from qfit.com is the gold standard. CVCX is a slightly less expensive option that handles many simulation questions.
@observer just use hi-opt 1. It’s simpler, better, and ignoring aces and deuces helps reduce the correlation with hi-lo.
Wait a min…is the advanced strategy card(s) what I think is is??? Is this the basic deviations based on true count on a card? Already bought three of the basic cards some time ago…I didn’t know what deviations were at the time…I do now…lol.
Yes, the advanced cards include the normal basic strategy, plus all of the Hi-Lo index numbers between -5 and +5. 🙂
How does it affect the game if the player can only split once , not multiple times?
The strategy does not change, but the player is worse off by around 0.1% if you are not allowed to resplit.
@Glen,
You may be pleased to know that Tunica Roadhouse, next door to Horseshoe Tunica, has a $3 table with normal beatable rules.
I’ve got a question regarding the charts. In the chart for the rules of: 6-deck, dealer hits on soft 17, double after split, late surrender allowed, peek, it says to double down on a soft 14 15 or 16 in certain scenarios, but what if they are 3+ card soft 14, 15, or 16s? (Then you CAN’T double down, of course.) Soooooo what happens then?
You’ll notice that some entries on the chart say “D”, while others say “Ds”.
“D” means Double if allowed, otherwise Hit. This is the most common doubling advice.
If you look at the chart for soft 18, you will find some exceptions.
Some of those decisions indicate “Ds”, which means Double if allowed, otherwise Stand.
ken I wish all the best 4 you in 2017 and just wanted to express a big thank you for your time and informations on bj !!!
ken …. in 6d s17 15vs 10 when there is a surrender first choice is surr or hit ?I saw a card that says 15 vs 10 stand at tc +4 and above and in how much – tc you prefer to hit than to surrender ?
This question was actually answered above. You can use the same indexes in a no-peek game, except ignore any that suggest splitting or doubling against a dealer ten or ace.
ok but what about the advanced strategy, how can i adjust to the count? Like, should i still stand a soft 18 against dealer A at TC>1 ? and hard 14,15,16 against dealer A is still stand at TC> 9 , 9 , 8 ? or any other changes? you know better
The question is are all your doubled and split bets vulnerable to an eventual dealer blackjack. If so, it’s a “no peek” game. Use the Strategy Engine set to No Peek to get the correct basic strategy.
So , in a game where the dealer gets only 1 card and he draws the other one only after every player stands (kinda the same as the “no peek” i guess) , what should we do? Should we still double 11 against that dealer’s Ace ? Does this affects other decisions against Ace ?