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Single deck it has a 1 in the 9v2 box. basic start says double. On a neutral count do I Double? Or hit. Does the one mean hit when it’s 1+ and don’t double, cuz technicAlly the index mean do something different than what I on this chart and the chart has double. Intuitively I would think but unless plus one then double cuz it has a better chance of working out right?
I am also confused on 8v 5,6 and soft 19 v 6 which has a one. Thank you.
The indexes you mention (9v2, 8v5&6, Soft 19v6) are all double-down indexes. I understand your confusion, because it would seem like basic strategy should match up with the action at a count of zero. But it doesn’t always match up. Why? Basic strategy takes into account the cards in your hand.
A great example is your choice of 9v2, where the doubling index is +1. Yet, in one or two-deck games, basic strategy says to double down. Here’s why… Consider a freshly shuffled single deck, and deal yourself a 9 against a dealer 2. What’s the count? Well, there are three possible ways to deal that hand (2,7), (3,6), and (4,5). And the dealer has a 2 up. If you’ll notice, the running count is now +2 or +3 depending on which version you are dealt. So off the top of the deck, you’re guaranteed to have more than a +1 true count if you get this hand. So a basic strategy double-down and a doubling index number of +1 are indeed compatible.
Hello ken.any numbers of avantage of disavantage in european bj.the european no hole pick card for the dealer i think its hurts the players right?also a surrender offer in europe against all dealers cards except an ace before the dealer delt any card to the palyers its the same percent avantage like u have in usa for the full early surrender? Thanks for the answer!
European No-Hole-Card costs the player about 0.11%. Since most of the value of surrender comes against the Ace, early surrender against any card except the Ace is less valuable. It adds 0.24%. (Full early surrender is worth 0.63% by comparison.)
Ken or some admin !! !please i really need some help here.i try to canculate the bj game that i play so PLEASE when a player can surrender against any card the dealer has except an ace and surrender can be made when no card is delt to the players is this an EARLY or a LATE surrender option.also please the penetration percent is something that changes the avantage or disavntage of the player?i know that poor penetration generates poor and more rare high counts but what about when we try to canculate the adge of the casino
The difference between early and late surrender is what happens when the dealer has blackjack. If you can avoid a dealer blackjack by surrendering, it’s early surrender. In most no-hole-card games (based on your last question I assume this applies to you), what is offered is early surrender, but no surrender is allowed against a dealer ace. But you can indeed surrender against a dealer ten even if the dealer eventually ends up with blackjack.
Penetration affects card counters, but not basic strategy players. The edge of the casino is traditionally calculated using basic strategy, so penetration doesn’t affect this calculation. To figure the edge on your game, since the Strategy Engine doesn’t have an option for ‘Early surrender, but not against Ace’, I recommend you choose ‘No Surrender’ instead. Then reduce the house edge it reports by 0.24%, which is the value of ES10.
Thanks alot ken for your time to answer to my posts abouts the surrender. after some months now i understand that to beat the game you need to play as much hands/hours most you can because you just exchange money between u and the dealer while playing and as long as you have the small edge you keep some money (edge/profit)of this exchange.its the opossite that the casino makes to the regural player.and we need enough money/units to stay alive in this exhange during the up and downs(standard daviation) to our profit
Ken hello again !!its me your midnight fan …????????????????
You have opened my eyes for good so one more question 4 you sir !!
In a 6d s17 das bj3.2 double on any 2 cards we need the bet spreads why? to over come the losses through the negative counts?and if i have to play under tc -1i need that bet spreads more than i would need them if i wong out at 0tc ?or the spreads are the one that creates the edge 4 the player?and if instead of spreading 1/12 at my casino i spread only 1/3 i suppose that my r.o.r its going to be alot lower but what about my e.v?i try to understand the importance of the spread and in a typical game what the affect in the same game rules with 1/12 spread and 1/3.if i wong in only at tc+2 with flat ber of 5 dollars i generate like this 0.5 edge×5 dollars =2.5 this is 0.25cents ? Is there a ror /bankroll/spread mathematic formula or i need cvcx?
Ken i have a question. I ceep track of the running count each hand and in the end i find the real count. The next hand i add my running count to the real count and than devide ??? plz anser cuzz i am lost at this part
Just carry the running count forward hand after hand. Convert it to a true count to make betting and playing decisions, but the running count just continues on. If I have two decks left and a running count of +8, I would use the true count of +4 to decide what to bet. Then as the next hand is dealt, I’m still adding or subtracting from my running count of +8.
Great forum for once again.in the top of this page i see that in 90 hours the money goes from plus 2.500 to minus 1175.
Here is my guestion ….. is it possible the bad variance to win the maths and general to loose slowly slowly your bank roll entire?or the spread the correct count are suppurior than all the bad luck of the world.i cant imagine a player loosing 4000 dollars in a 3hours sessions slowly and in the end to fight with his last 1000.
Before some times you had told me that in the cards dont have memory who r u or how much u loose !!and u also told me that in the end things general meaning doesnt have to come even so a player take back his money.
Of course all these i am thinking maybe its just voodoo fear since cardcounting its a profitball art
I know what i see ken ?? A very nice humble experience pro who has the abillity to pass his knowledge very good to us.i feel the need to thank u again for all this treasure of knowledge that u shared with us.i would suggest to make a page at the facebook believe me u will have a lot of admires.
I’m am very glad I found your article. I’ve tried many times to explain this point to players and it’s exactly like arguing religion. Once you bring facts into the debate they shut down (please don’t be offered I don’t mean to insult anyone’s faith). What this all boils down to is if you want to live by hindsight, would offs and could ofs, your going to have a very miserable life.
Visit https://www.blackjacktournaments.com/tournaments/ and click “Edit Search Settings”. Put “MS,LA” in for state, to restrict listings to just Mississippi and Louisiana. Set the dates as you would like, and click Search.
Here In vegas all single deck games now pay 6-5, not 3-2 on blackjacks. This from what I calculate is never a game to be played. Here the Station Casinos offer up a deep penetration double deck, it is the most beatable game in my opinion. The only caveat is you must play a $10 minimum table as all 5 dollar tables are 6-5.
Single deck it has a 1 in the 9v2 box. basic start says double. On a neutral count do I Double? Or hit. Does the one mean hit when it’s 1+ and don’t double, cuz technicAlly the index mean do something different than what I on this chart and the chart has double. Intuitively I would think but unless plus one then double cuz it has a better chance of working out right?
I am also confused on 8v 5,6 and soft 19 v 6 which has a one. Thank you.
The indexes you mention (9v2, 8v5&6, Soft 19v6) are all double-down indexes. I understand your confusion, because it would seem like basic strategy should match up with the action at a count of zero. But it doesn’t always match up. Why? Basic strategy takes into account the cards in your hand.
A great example is your choice of 9v2, where the doubling index is +1. Yet, in one or two-deck games, basic strategy says to double down. Here’s why… Consider a freshly shuffled single deck, and deal yourself a 9 against a dealer 2. What’s the count? Well, there are three possible ways to deal that hand (2,7), (3,6), and (4,5). And the dealer has a 2 up. If you’ll notice, the running count is now +2 or +3 depending on which version you are dealt. So off the top of the deck, you’re guaranteed to have more than a +1 true count if you get this hand. So a basic strategy double-down and a doubling index number of +1 are indeed compatible.
I would think hit unless plus one
Hello ken.any numbers of avantage of disavantage in european bj.the european no hole pick card for the dealer i think its hurts the players right?also a surrender offer in europe against all dealers cards except an ace before the dealer delt any card to the palyers its the same percent avantage like u have in usa for the full early surrender? Thanks for the answer!
European No-Hole-Card costs the player about 0.11%.
Since most of the value of surrender comes against the Ace, early surrender against any card except the Ace is less valuable. It adds 0.24%. (Full early surrender is worth 0.63% by comparison.)
Ken or some admin !! !please i really need some help here.i try to canculate the bj game that i play so PLEASE when a player can surrender against any card the dealer has except an ace and surrender can be made when no card is delt to the players is this an EARLY or a LATE surrender option.also please the penetration percent is something that changes the avantage or disavntage of the player?i know that poor penetration generates poor and more rare high counts but what about when we try to canculate the adge of the casino
The difference between early and late surrender is what happens when the dealer has blackjack. If you can avoid a dealer blackjack by surrendering, it’s early surrender. In most no-hole-card games (based on your last question I assume this applies to you), what is offered is early surrender, but no surrender is allowed against a dealer ace. But you can indeed surrender against a dealer ten even if the dealer eventually ends up with blackjack.
Penetration affects card counters, but not basic strategy players. The edge of the casino is traditionally calculated using basic strategy, so penetration doesn’t affect this calculation. To figure the edge on your game, since the Strategy Engine doesn’t have an option for ‘Early surrender, but not against Ace’, I recommend you choose ‘No Surrender’ instead. Then reduce the house edge it reports by 0.24%, which is the value of ES10.
Read Stanford Wong’d book on Casino Tournaments.
Thanks alot ken for your time to answer to my posts abouts the surrender.
after some months now i understand that to beat the game you need to play as much hands/hours most you can because you just exchange money between u and the dealer while playing and as long as you have the small edge you keep some money (edge/profit)of this exchange.its the opossite that the casino makes to the regural player.and we need enough money/units to stay alive in this exhange during the up and downs(standard daviation) to our profit
Ken hello again !!its me your midnight fan …????????????????
You have opened my eyes for good so one more question 4 you sir !!
In a 6d s17 das bj3.2 double on any 2 cards we need the bet spreads why?
to over come the losses through the negative counts?and if i have to play under tc -1i need that bet spreads more than i would need them if i wong out at 0tc ?or the spreads are the one that creates the edge 4 the player?and if instead of spreading 1/12 at my casino i spread only 1/3 i suppose that my r.o.r its going to be alot lower but what about my e.v?i try to understand the importance of the spread and in a typical game what the affect in the same game rules with 1/12 spread and 1/3.if i wong in only at tc+2 with flat ber of 5 dollars i generate like this 0.5 edge×5 dollars =2.5 this is 0.25cents ? Is there a ror /bankroll/spread mathematic formula or i need cvcx?
Ken i have a question. I ceep track of the running count each hand and in the end i find the real count. The next hand i add my running count to the real count and than devide ??? plz anser cuzz i am lost at this part
Just carry the running count forward hand after hand. Convert it to a true count to make betting and playing decisions, but the running count just continues on. If I have two decks left and a running count of +8, I would use the true count of +4 to decide what to bet. Then as the next hand is dealt, I’m still adding or subtracting from my running count of +8.
Here i am again ken!!! ?
Great forum for once again.in the top of this page i see that in 90 hours the money goes from plus 2.500 to minus 1175.
Here is my guestion ….. is it possible the bad variance to win the maths and general to loose slowly slowly your bank roll entire?or the spread the correct count are suppurior than all the bad luck of the world.i cant imagine a player loosing 4000 dollars in a 3hours sessions slowly and in the end to fight with his last 1000.
Before some times you had told me that in the cards dont have memory who r u or how much u loose !!and u also told me that in the end things general meaning doesnt have to come even so a player take back his money.
Of course all these i am thinking maybe its just voodoo fear since cardcounting its a profitball art
I know what i see ken ?? A very nice humble experience pro who has the abillity to pass his knowledge very good to us.i feel the need to thank u again for all this treasure of knowledge that u shared with us.i would suggest to make a page at the facebook believe me u will have a lot of admires.
I’m am very glad I found your article. I’ve tried many times to explain this point to players and it’s exactly like arguing religion. Once you bring facts into the debate they shut down (please don’t be offered I don’t mean to insult anyone’s faith). What this all boils down to is if you want to live by hindsight, would offs and could ofs, your going to have a very miserable life.
Visit https://www.blackjacktournaments.com/tournaments/ and click “Edit Search Settings”.
Put “MS,LA” in for state, to restrict listings to just Mississippi and Louisiana. Set the dates as you would like, and click Search.
Where can I find a listing of blackjack tournament on the gulf coast
Thanks 4 your answer !!!
Excelent answer thanks alot
Here In vegas all single deck games now pay 6-5, not 3-2 on blackjacks. This from what I calculate is never a game to be played. Here the Station Casinos offer up a deep penetration double deck, it is the most beatable game in my opinion. The only caveat is you must play a $10 minimum table as all 5 dollar tables are 6-5.