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is it possible that you could send med the formular and prof of the equation behind the calculator. im writting a paper due the 20-12-2019. that would be really helpful.
Basic strategy is what it implies “basic”! I would never put money down if I only knew the basics. Card counting is blackjack “201” (basic strategy is blackjack 101). You still are not a professional. Understand ” variation” and “true count” only then (once you mastered it) can you call yourself a professional! When you are hitting hard 17 and getting 4’s or when you are betting insurance and banking on it…you know you are a pro! Don’t care what the others around you say. You know more than they do!
Thanks for being here. Am returning to the course after a couple of years off. I got so I was playing a decent basic strategy, but I hadn’t gotten counting yet. This time around, I’ll probe deeper, because what little I learned and put to use was VERY profitable.
I mostly play poker 1/2 Texas holdem I asked a dealer about the automatic shuffler; does it know if there 51 or 53 cards in the deck? He said yes it counts to make sure there are 52, and it can even put them back in order A123…JQK. If it can put them in starting order, it can put them in any order, for blackjack all the 10’s together in the front or in the back Taking into account a player will cut the cards in the middle somewhere, the high cards would still be all together
In splitting Aces are you not looking for a push at a minimum or better? And why always split 8’s? What is the basis/expectation for doing so against the Dealer up card Ace
Johnny’s decision only matters when the next two cards are a bust and non bust card for the dealer.
So when you make your list of all the possibilities, you can remove all the two bust card next and two non bust card next possibilities. because johnny’s decision does not matter for them.
having done this, you will always find that the number of possibilities with the bust card first and the bust card second are equal.
this example is easily shown with two sixes and one ten. there are six possible orders. but two of them have the bust card last, so johnny’s decision doesn’t matter. this leaves two with the bust card first, and two with it second. 50% chance of it helping or hurting when it matters.
same results with two bust and one low. same results with 4 cards. same results with 40 cards left. there is always an equal number with it second and first.
if johnny only hit when it was a bust card, and stood when it wasn’t, it would affect the table. but that requires cheating or psychic powers. from a probability standpoint it doesn’t matter.
That said. there is ONE test that will answer the question once and for all.
Run the following long term simulation.
You play perfect basic strategy.
Johnny is at third base. He is the worst player ever. He will either take a hit or stand. While he doesn’t hit every ‘time theres a bust card next, or stand every time there isn’t, he does hit when there are more bust cards than not, and stand when there are more cards that give the dealer the win than not.
According to you, this has no effect on long term profit/loss.
If the 4 is made up of a pair of 2’s, split. If the “4” is made up of an Ace and a 3, then double down. This is stated in the charts. Never stay on a 4.
That sounds like real life. How much protection do you really think you have playing $10 hands with $1000 bankroll? You’re more likely to bankrupt than survive the swings.
How the hell did you lose 30 in a row are you not playing by the book perfect strategy. I made over 1500 in 6 hrs doing 5-15-35-70-140-280-560-1120 . I basically do 10 games per set and 5 sets which would be 50 games it got scary I got to hand 6 a few times $280 . I guess sooner or later you will lose 8 in a row . I just wonder if it is better to use maybe 5-6 hand losing streaks for martingale . Then start over because if you lost 8 in a row all your profits are gone. I guess if you were rich you would never lose double forever lol
Not always. When the count is negative at the end of the deck don’t split. If the dealer is showing a 10 or ace and the count is also negative don’t split. Just hit! the chances of getting 19 or higher are good
Thanks LV Bear, your response is super appreciated. I have a follow up question for you if you don’t mind. Since you should only be taking insurance at a +3 anyways and at a +3 in this game your edge is around 1.3%, would that take .4% off of your edge if and only if the dealer shows up with an Ace, bringing your edge in that scenario down to .8%? Just wondering how to calculate the game. I don’t want to make any assumptions. Thanks!
I believe the only game in the United States that fits this description is the tiny-stakes game at Barton’s in Jackpot. The house edge is 0.18. House edge is generally expressed as “off the top of the deck vs. basic strategy.” The lack of insurance does not affect it, as a basic strategist never takes insurance. As for Ken’s calculation for a card counter, it’s reasonable, making the Barton’s game only marginally playable for those who play tiny stakes, and very frustrating.
Is it better to play at a table with other players or be the only person
Other people slow the game down and waste good cards in positive counts. Most serious players prefer to play alone if possible.
I wanted to know if there are casinos in Medellin that don’t use CSM
is it possible that you could send med the formular and prof of the equation behind the calculator. im writting a paper due the 20-12-2019. that would be really helpful.
Sorry, the creator of the calculator has retired and is no longer involved with it.
Basic strategy is what it implies “basic”! I would never put money down if I only knew the basics. Card counting is blackjack “201” (basic strategy is blackjack 101). You still are not a professional. Understand ” variation” and “true count” only then (once you mastered it) can you call yourself a professional! When you are hitting hard 17 and getting 4’s or when you are betting insurance and banking on it…you know you are a pro! Don’t care what the others around you say. You know more than they do!
Thanks for being here. Am returning to the course after a couple of years off. I got so I was playing a decent basic strategy, but I hadn’t gotten counting yet. This time around, I’ll probe deeper, because what little I learned and put to use was VERY profitable.
I mostly play poker 1/2 Texas holdem I asked a dealer about the automatic shuffler; does it know if there 51 or 53 cards in the deck? He said yes it counts to make sure there are 52, and it can even put them back in order
A123…JQK.
If it can put them in starting order, it can put them in any order, for blackjack all the 10’s together in the front or in the back
Taking into account a player will cut the cards in the middle somewhere, the high cards would still be all together
In splitting Aces are you not looking for a push at a minimum or better? And why always split 8’s? What is the basis/expectation for doing so against the Dealer up card Ace
Here’s an alternate explanation.
Johnny’s decision only matters when the next two cards are a bust and non bust card for the dealer.
So when you make your list of all the possibilities, you can remove all the two bust card next and two non bust card next possibilities. because johnny’s decision does not matter for them.
having done this, you will always find that the number of possibilities with the bust card first and the bust card second are equal.
this example is easily shown with two sixes and one ten. there are six possible orders. but two of them have the bust card last, so johnny’s decision doesn’t matter. this leaves two with the bust card first, and two with it second. 50% chance of it helping or hurting when it matters.
same results with two bust and one low. same results with 4 cards. same results with 40 cards left. there is always an equal number with it second and first.
if johnny only hit when it was a bust card, and stood when it wasn’t, it would affect the table. but that requires cheating or psychic powers. from a probability standpoint it doesn’t matter.
That said. there is ONE test that will answer the question once and for all.
Run the following long term simulation.
You play perfect basic strategy.
Johnny is at third base. He is the worst player ever. He will either take a hit or stand. While he doesn’t hit every ‘time theres a bust card next, or stand every time there isn’t, he does hit when there are more bust cards than not, and stand when there are more cards that give the dealer the win than not.
According to you, this has no effect on long term profit/loss.
If dealer has 5 and I have 4 do I stay or hit?
If the 4 is made up of a pair of 2’s, split. If the “4” is made up of an Ace and a 3, then double down. This is stated in the charts. Never stay on a 4.
I wanted to know if there are any casinos in Medellin that don’t use CSM?
That sounds like real life. How much protection do you really think you have playing $10 hands with $1000 bankroll? You’re more likely to bankrupt than survive the swings.
How the hell did you lose 30 in a row are you not playing by the book perfect strategy. I made over 1500 in 6 hrs doing 5-15-35-70-140-280-560-1120 . I basically do 10 games per set and 5 sets which would be 50 games it got scary I got to hand 6 a few times $280 . I guess sooner or later you will lose 8 in a row . I just wonder if it is better to use maybe 5-6 hand losing streaks for martingale . Then start over because if you lost 8 in a row all your profits are gone. I guess if you were rich you would never lose double forever lol
Not always. When the count is negative at the end of the deck don’t split. If the dealer is showing a 10 or ace and the count is also negative don’t split. Just hit! the chances of getting 19 or higher are good
Please post the question in the “Card Counting, Advanced Strategies” section of the forums.
Thanks LV Bear, your response is super appreciated. I have a follow up question for you if you don’t mind. Since you should only be taking insurance at a +3 anyways and at a +3 in this game your edge is around 1.3%, would that take .4% off of your edge if and only if the dealer shows up with an Ace, bringing your edge in that scenario down to .8%? Just wondering how to calculate the game. I don’t want to make any assumptions. Thanks!
I believe the only game in the United States that fits this description is the tiny-stakes game at Barton’s in Jackpot. The house edge is 0.18. House edge is generally expressed as “off the top of the deck vs. basic strategy.” The lack of insurance does not affect it, as a basic strategist never takes insurance. As for Ken’s calculation for a card counter, it’s reasonable, making the Barton’s game only marginally playable for those who play tiny stakes, and very frustrating.