3-2 v 6-5

Kasi said:

Your math mystifies me lol.

Firstly, 0.045*0.0476 does not equal 0.02.

Secondly, it doesn't equal 0.02% either.

Thirdly, the chances you state of getting BJ is wrong in any game.

Fourthly, don't forget to divide by the bet amount.

Fifthly, I don't even understand why you chose a $5.50 bet or what you are paid for a BJ if that was your original bet.

Not to mention why "betting $5 or $6" leads to the same reduction in HA.

The big point here is that winning an extra 25 cents on a $2.5 BJ bet (getting paid 4$ instead of $3.75) is enough to turn the HA to the player's favor in even a 6D game.

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firstly, the chance of getting a blackjack is 1/21 (.0476), ask sonny or somebody else if you dont believe me

secondly, i chose $5.50 because that is the lowest amount you can bet with a pink, and yes, i could have chose $10.50 which is more common, but i wanted to show the greatest advantage possible of getting an extra 25 cents on a blackjack, which would be in a $5 game

thirdly, if you dont even know what im talking about with the $X.50 bet, or what you would get paid, then how are you correcting me on something you dont understand (hold the math)?

fourthly, think about it, take any amount of green, white, and red chips you want, and add a pink to the pile, and multiply by 1.5.. what do you get? unless the casino has quarters, you wont be paid exactly.. and what are you talking about with $5 or $6 leads to the same reduction in house edge? i never said that, i said "so just by betting $5.50 instead of $5 or $6.."

fifthly, im glad you noticed the mistakes i made, one being one decimal off, and two being that im dealing with money won, not house edge.. if the casino rounds up, you gain .25 cents no matter your bet, right? well .25/5.50=4.5%, which is how much more money you will get on a blackjack if they round up, make sense? ok, now how often do you get a blackjack? ~1/21 (.0476) right? well that means that every 21st hand, you will make 4.5% more money, but this has to be averaged out over all hands, thus .045*.0476=.002%.. so if you bet $5.50 flat, and the casino rounds up, you will make 1/5 of 1% (.002%) more money overall (sounds small, doesnt it?), which would mean you get $1 extra for every $500 you bet, but that is not as small as you think, because .002 * 91 hands per hour *$5.50 bet = $1 extra per hour! still sound small? lets first calculate how much you lose per hour normally.. -.0043(house edge)*91(hands per hour)*5.50(flat bet)= -$2.15/hr, so just by betting $5.50 in a $5 game, you will reduce that to -$1.15/hr, or put another way, you will lose 47% less money!!

btw kasi, what you said about overcoming the house edge just by this "move", what game do you know of where you can bet $2.50? lowest i know of is $5, and even that seems to be rare nowadays, which is why i used $5.50.. do u understand now?

A $1 an hour? A whole dollar an hour?
Why,if I played 200 hours a week,in less than five years,I'd have a downpayment on a house.Of course,playing 200 hours a week I wouldn't need a house,but........

200 hours is hard to do

shadroch said:

A $1 an hour? A whole dollar an hour?
Why,if I played 200 hours a week,in less than five years,I'd have a downpayment on a house.Of course,playing 200 hours a week I wouldn't need a house,but........

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The odds of being able to work 200 hours in a week are exactly equal to the odds of getting a blackjack when your first card is a 6.

ihate17

shadroch said:

A $1 an hour? A whole dollar an hour?
Why,if I played 200 hours a week,in less than five years,I'd have a downpayment on a house.Of course,playing 200 hours a week I wouldn't need a house,but........

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do you know what % is? $1/hr is huge when added to -$2.15/hr.. remember, somebody with a $1000 bankroll playing $10 hands is the same as a person with a $10000 bankroll playing $100 hands.. the example i used above with the $5.50 was to show that you should ALWAYS bet a pink with your bet IF your casino rounds up, and NEVER if they round down, as its not "just a quarter", but of course if your at a $25 table, well then.. fyi, a casino near me used to have $3 tables, so that move was massive.. too bad they rounded down

ihate17 said:

The odds of being able to work 200 hours in a week are exactly equal to the odds of getting a blackjack when your first card is a 6.

ihate17

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let see, if you carry the 1, then get a 10, but the dealer has.. you could.. and then..

SilentBob420BMFJ said:

btw kasi, what you said about overcoming the house edge just by this "move", what game do you know of where you can bet $2.50? lowest i know of is $5, and even that seems to be rare nowadays, which is why i used $5.50.. do u understand now?

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Reading you loud and clear lol.

As to the BJ percent, just meant it wasn't exact in case you thought it was. No big deal. For some reason I'm always thinking you like exactitude as much as possible.

So that's why I bother saying one-fifth percent is either 0.002 or 0.2% but not 0.02%.

But, more importantly, like you say, you got the "right" answer.

And, also like you say, I think that extra $1 is huge representing as it does a 50% reduction in HA.

Although, on further thought, just as a small point, I don't think either one of us took into account that not all BJ's we receive will be winning BJ's. Some will push against a dealer BJ.

Anyone know if you can still play $1 BJ at Slots of Fun?

I think Bill's in Tahoe had a $3 game last time I was there. I think I lost $100 in 10 minutes at 2 AM lol.

I've never seen a game where they round up a pay-off.

So I'd say you are an AP recognizing a value-added situation when you see it!