Mohegan Sun is all 6D?

I made my inaugural trip to the North East recently and checked out 2 casinos.

#1 Mohegan sun is a monstrosity. Holy crap. My edition of CBJN was about 6 months out of date, so I was expecting all 8D games. For the first 30 mins or so I was scratching my head to find ANY 8D games. All I could find was 6D. This was a little confusing as I usually play 6D, but was expecting 8D with 1.8 cut off. What I found was 6D with 1.4-1.7 cut off. I went on a busy night. Almost all tables were full, but there was plenty of wonging to be had, even at the quarter level for my new and improved bankroll. Made some money but it was tough based on how packed it was.

#2 Went to Twin Rivers and saw "Live Digital Blackjack" or something like that. By the time i figured out the game it was time to leave. Basically this is a digital BJ game that the casino can program however they like. There is NO video screen with a big boobed dealer. It is a real blackjack table with NO dealer. Each player has their own screen. there is an additional dealer screen where you see the dealer's hand and a discard tray screen. The discard tray told me it was a double deck game, the slot tech told me it was set to 6D. since this discard tray pretty much always showed two decks, except with a "pending shuffle" it was too tough for me to figure out what the pen was set to. rules wise it was ok, but the angle of the other players screens made it impossible to count EXCEPT that each players' hand shows up as it is being played on everyones' screen. it is only there for a few seconds, but long enough to count.
is the game beatable? i think it is, but it depends on PEN. you could technically play heads up and have a great game all to yourself. one caveat with this thing. if you thought playing at $5 tables was annoying with a real dealer and some shmuck keeps buying in for $20, this is worse. there were 5-6 tables $5 or $10. there was ONE employee for all the tables. Each time you want to buy in, you have to call over the guy, have him feed your money into the machine, then he programs the machine to give you the "chips." same if you want to cash out, you call him over, he hits some buttons and out pops a slot voucher with your winnings. my god, this game was slower than molasses stuck to a blanket. I'm still not 100% sure this is beatable. it is countable, rules were good DAS, S17, noLS, can't remember the rest. PEN is everything and like i said I didn't have the patience nor did i feel like cooking up the right algorithm for solving it on the fly, plus with all the people jumping in and out and not really being able to see how many cards were going out, i didn't want to just fudge it.

didn't make it to foxwoods as their limits were higher than MSun in my CBJN but since this is a wong only situation maybe i should have went there. won't be back on the east coast for at least 6 months, probably longer, so it matters not.

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Mimo.

Welcome to Connecticut! Foxwoods makes Mohegan Sun look small. MS is all 6D now and it's good to hear the pen has gotten a little better. Foxwoods is all 8D except in the high limit rooms but the pen is usually a little better still (with a few dealers cutting down below 1 deck!) so the game has higher EV.

Automatic Monkey said:

Welcome to Connecticut! Foxwoods makes Mohegan Sun look small. MS is all 6D now and it's good to hear the pen has gotten a little better. Foxwoods is all 8D except in the high limit rooms but the pen is usually a little better still (with a few dealers cutting down below 1 deck!) so the game has higher EV.

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I think MS still has some 8-deck pits, particularly in the non-smoking areas. On all games, they do offer LS, and they stand on soft 17, and allow DAS (except split aces, where you only get one card on each) and DoA. Splitting 10s is prohibited, so you don't have to worry about giving in to temptation :devil: . No mid-shoe entry at the 6 deckers in sky casino (but also less crowded and no match the dealer side bet); mid-shoe entry allowed in earth casino 6-deck pits (other than high limit), but tables are crowded and the side bet slows play to a crawl. Very slow hand shuffles combined with mediocre to bad pen also slow the pace at which the ploppies can make their donations at all pits in both casinos.

Though I haven't been to Foxwoods for a while, the problem with both these places is that they are often very crowded, especially on weekends and holidays.

Automatic Monkey said:

Welcome to Connecticut! Foxwoods makes Mohegan Sun look small. MS is all 6D now and it's good to hear the pen has gotten a little better. Foxwoods is all 8D except in the high limit rooms but the pen is usually a little better still (with a few dealers cutting down below 1 deck!) so the game has higher EV.

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i shied away from FW since the limits were higher, but in a wong-only environment i shouldn't have since I read the pen was better. maybe next year. At MS the PEN was pretty consistent. I played in at least 3 different pits with 6+ dealers, it tended to be closer to 1.7, but was never less than 1.4.

CVBJ has both CT casinos wrong, the games are all LS. Yes the Seasons Casino will make your head spin, and there are 8 deck games near the bus depot. But the main area near the the Wolf Den is all 6-deckers.