BlackJack Live Dealer

Hey Guys, .... M back

Is Card Counting Possible at Bet365 Online Blackjack Live dealer?

What is the Best way to Clear Blackjack Bonus 100% up to $200?
so if i deposit $200 i get to play with $400.
sounds cool.

But when i look at the Finer Bonus Terms and Conditions i c that i am located in a country where the wagering requirement is Deposit + Bonus 50 times = $20,000/-

Is it worth to take the Bonus or better avoid it?

Need Your Comments?

You could try, but if you get caught counting, they might ban you from play. And if they ban you, you cannot complete the bonus wagering, which means you cannot cash out. (You might being able to bail out your deposit though).

Anyway, what's the rules and penetration ?

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-Sonny-

Utter waste of time. Pen is usually very poor and game speed is excessively slow. You simply don't get enough hands per hour to make it worthwhile. Also, if you read further into the fine print, you'll see that all versions of Blackjack only count for 10% of their wagering, so that 20k is now 200k.

RJT.

RJT said:

Utter waste of time. Pen is usually very poor and game speed is excessively slow. You simply don't get enough hands per hour to make it worthwhile. Also, if you read further into the fine print, you'll see that all versions of Blackjack only count for 10% of their wagering, so that 20k is now 200k.

RJT.

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Ty RJT,
I luk up the finer terms and condition and found this .... yeah u r right ...
"Blackjack (all variations except Blackjack Surrender, Blackjack Switch and Lucky Blackjack) and Casino Hold'em contribute 10%. Video Poker (all variations) contribute 5%. Blackjack Switch, Blackjack Surrender, Lucky Blackjack, Pirate Hi-Lo, Pontoon, Slots Double Up and Video Poker Double Up games do not contribute towards the wagering requirements"

I was thinking ... if i can play standard Online BJ @1000 hands per hour flat betting $10 .... then i would be able to clear the Bonus in 2 Hours if i survive.
1000X10= $10,000 X 2 = $20,000/- i might break even and keep the bonus in 2 hours.
but 200k is impossible ... the longer i play the riskier is my game:

So the Bonus is not worth it... i'll go broke trying to meet the wagering Requirement!
Its nice That RJT reminded me of the Finer Wagering terms!

Ty Sony and MangoJ
so if its countable dat means its +ev .... even thought advantage is minimal.
atleast its better then Random online BJ.
About the BlackJack Live Dealer , yeah its slow ... and the game is played at 40 to 60 hands per hour. way too slow ... 8 decks and pen is about 50% to 55% approx ...
and if we sit out 3 hands we get kick ... so we can sit out every 2 hands and keep counting!
would balance or unbalance counting be suitable? will aces side count be helpful?

It's still +EV with $200k wagering, but you better have sufficient bankroll for that business.

MangoJ said:

It's still +EV with $200k wagering, but you better have sufficient bankroll for that business.

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If you're just flat betting it's not, even if you play Blackjack Switch. Using a two tierd apporch, yes it'd become +EV again but you're risk goes up very quickly.

RJT.

RJT said:

Using a two tierd apporch, yes it'd become +EV again but you're risk goes up very quickly.

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I didn't state anything else. The offer is still +EV, but you need a large bankroll to absorb the risk involved with proper strategy. Who said that flat betting is the proper strategy ?

MangoJ said:

I didn't state anything else. The offer is still +EV, but you need a large bankroll to absorb the risk involved with proper strategy. Who said that flat betting is the proper strategy ?

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The poster has already shown that they're not clued up on this topic and has indicated a preferrance for flat betting. Seems a little remiss to suggest that the bonus is +EV if you're not going to tell him that you need to do more than what's been discussed already.

Better to leave him believing that it's not beatable than give just enough information for him to go and hurt himself.

As it stands, either way it's a poor bonus.

RJT.

Yeah I agree, it's a poor bonus.

Thank you so much guys for your comments!

Bet365 100% bonus up to $200 50 times bonus + deposit wagering requirement, i agree its a weak bonus. (Country India)

and Y do some countries like Russia have to wager 200 times deposit + Bonus on bet365 or most casinos ... r they too Good... too lucky ... or r the casinos scared of them or do they have infamous history of bonus abuses or is it just simply to discourage players from these countries.

Can u guys Recommend any Trusted Online Casinos with a Blackjack Bonus and low wagering requirements.

I have one more Question Regarding Comps!

Do the Online Casinos Allow 100% Comps on Blackjack wager?

if $10 wager is 1 comp, 100 comp is $1.
ie: $1000 wager = $1
$20,000/- wager is =$20
that can be achieved by flat betting $10 for 2 hours @1000 hands per hour.
$100k wager will be equal to $100.
so If i can find a Trusted Online casino with a Good sign up Match Bonus and Play Perfect BS , then will it be +EV?

Will it be Better to spread my Bet 1 to 2 Units instead of flat betting to clear Bonuses. ?
Is there any good betting strategy to clear Bonuses?

Black Jack Live Dealer?

will Unbalance counting Help? with aces side count. for Online Live Dealer Blackjack.

Unbalanced 10 Count – 8 Deck
Start the count at –4 multiplied by the number of decks in the shoe
Example. –4 * 8 decks = -32

2 Count -2 for 10’s, Jacks, Queens, and Kings
3 Count +1 for all other cards (including aces)
4 Make small wagers when the count is below -2, and make big wagers when the count is above -2

For the Count to Become Positive it will take too many hands.
but if the situation is right and i can sit out 2 hands when cards not in my favor? is it worth it.
The Casinos Knows about posible card counting so they have a Pen of only about 50% to 55% and 8 decks.
will the casino know m counting? can i get ban for counting online?
Is it worth it?

blacksworn said:

and Y do some countries like Russia have to wager 200 times deposit + Bonus on bet365 or most casinos ... r they too Good... too lucky ... or r the casinos scared of them or do they have infamous history of bonus abuses or is it just simply to discourage players from these countries.

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Primarily online casinos disallow specific countries for one of two reasons. First, most venues don't want to mess with durastictions where gambling is illegal. Second - as is the case with many eastern european countries and China - they've seen a very high volume of bonus abusers from those countries.

blacksworn said:

Can u guys Recommend any Trusted Online Casinos with a Blackjack Bonus and low wagering requirements.

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Really you're several years too late to find anything like that, but if you're really interested in finding out more regarding beating online casinos checkout http://www.beatingbonuses.com

blacksworn said:

I have one more Question Regarding Comps!

Do the Online Casinos Allow 100% Comps on Blackjack wager?

if $10 wager is 1 comp, 100 comp is $1.
ie: $1000 wager = $1
$20,000/- wager is =$20
that can be achieved by flat betting $10 for 2 hours @1000 hands per hour.
$100k wager will be equal to $100.
so If i can find a Trusted Online casino with a Good sign up Match Bonus and Play Perfect BS , then will it be +EV?

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It varies from casino to casino. At Bet 365 - unlike most Playtech - casinos it actually varies by game how many points are awarded. Comps rarely make a big enough difference to make the game positive by themselves. Combined with bonuses they can help make games +EV, but with most pre wager bonuses it's awkward to calculate the effect.

blacksworn said:

Will it be Better to spread my Bet 1 to 2 Units instead of flat betting to clear Bonuses. ?
Is there any good betting strategy to clear Bonuses?

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It usually looks a little better if you change your bets once in a while, especially if you're micro betting, but truthfully i have flat betted loads of bonus without problems.

RJT.

blacksworn said:

will Unbalance counting Help? with aces side count. for Online Live Dealer Blackjack.

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Unbalanced counting is just a different variation on counting. It makes little difference to a balanced count as long as they're both implemented properly.

blacksworn said:

The Casinos Knows about posible card counting so they have a Pen of only about 50% to 55% and 8 decks.
will the casino know m counting? can i get ban for counting online?
Is it worth it?

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Yes they will figure it out fairly quickly. Yes they will ban you. No, even if they didn't ban you quickly it wouldn't be worth it. You simply can't play enough hands/hour to make it worthwhile and with the awful penetration this is a waste of time and effort.

RJT.

Ty you so much RJT
Really Appreciate it .... You have answered all my questions