4 Card Poker

[Billy C1]

Anyone know at what point this game becomes "playable"-------that is, at what point does the progressive jackpot for 4 Aces make this a plus EV game?
It "re-sets" at $4000 but where does it become playable?

BillyC1

 

[Nynefingers]

Is this 4 card poker or crazy four poker? I've never played either game, but you'll get 4 aces out of 5 cards from a standard 52 card deck once every 54145 hands. You can get the house edge from the Wizard of Odds and figure the cost of each round with whichever standard pay table you are playing. Then find your expected loss per hand (house edge times bet). The EV of the progressive has to be enough to overcome that expected loss, so multiply the expected loss by 54145 and that's how much the progressive has to pay out over and above what the standard payout would be without a progressive. If it requires an additional side bet, don't forget to factor that into the cost per round. Even if it goes positive, you're only hitting it once every 54145 hands, so the variance would be sick. This is not a viable play unless you and a well bankrolled team could lock up every seat on more than one table (every table, ideally) around the clock until it hit. Even then, it would take an unusual situation to produce a jackpot worth the effort.

 

[Dyepaintball12]

No Crazy 4 Poker has set payouts and no progressive.

 

[Nynefingers]

No Crazy 4 Poker has set payouts and no progressive.

According to the Wizard, that's true of both games. I have never played either. Crazy 4 Poker at least has an entry on the pay table for four aces, so I wasn't sure which one the OP was asking about.

 

[Billy C1]

According to the Wizard, that's true of both games. I have never played either. Crazy 4 Poker at least has an entry on the pay table for four aces, so I wasn't sure which one the OP was asking about.

It's 4 Card Poker that I'm wondering about.

BillyC1

 

[Billy C1]

Wizard of Odds

Is this 4 card poker or crazy four poker? I've never played either game, but you'll get 4 aces out of 5 cards from a standard 52 card deck once every 54145 hands. You can get the house edge from the Wizard of Odds and figure the cost of each round with whichever standard pay table you are playing. Then find your expected loss per hand (house edge times bet). The EV of the progressive has to be enough to overcome that expected loss, so multiply the expected loss by 54145 and that's how much the progressive has to pay out over and above what the standard payout would be without a progressive. If it requires an additional side bet, don't forget to factor that into the cost per round. Even if it goes positive, you're only hitting it once every 54145 hands, so the variance would be sick. This is not a viable play unless you and a well bankrolled team could lock up every seat on more than one table (every table, ideally) around the clock until it hit. Even then, it would take an unusual situation to produce a jackpot worth the effort.

Thanks for directing me to the "wizard". It was quite helpful!

BillyC1