6th outing

aslan

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Went to AC Wednesday & Thursday. Played 6 sessions in two days. Won $700. Played 4 sessions of 8D (Taj Mahal & Trump Marina), 2 of 6D (Borgata). Followed your advice by wonging out repeatedly (bathroom, food, etc. in certain neg. counts). Thanks! It worked. Also, tried some oppostional betting in certain counts which seemed to work. Because I had limited BR, I played 1 X 7-8 spread. Played only one hand this week as opposed to two last week. With the wonging out and the better bett to BR ratio, all was more relaxed and enjoyable. So that's 5 out of 6 winnings, but the one loss was a doozy!

I could have almost counted in my sleep, it has become so easy even when tired. Now I will used Smartcards, which just came, and learn to be as efficient using a more difficult system. Still can't decide which one. UBZ? Zen? (As you can see, I am impressed by zg and his knowledge of the game.) Other? I hope some of you others will chime in on what the best system would be to learn IYO. Thanks.
 
Now you've got it- skip those negative counts! Less money risked, less stress, more profit. Harder for surveillance to watch you too, in places where that is a problem.

If you want to upgrade to a level 2 count, you can "go ape" and try mine...
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/Ben-Franklin-Count.pdf

As long as you are cool with the counting by 2's, you should find it easier than High-Low and you'll wring just a little more money out of those shoes.
 

aslan

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Automatic Monkey said:
Now you've got it- skip those negative counts! Less money risked, less stress, more profit. Harder for surveillance to watch you too, in places where that is a problem.
All so true.

Automatic Monkey said:
If you want to upgrade to a level 2 count, you can "go ape" and try mine...
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/Ben-Franklin-Count.pdf
I'll give it a try. I didn't realize there were count systems designed especially for shoe games. Since that is the only type of game I ever see in AC, other than SD, 6 to 5, it seems like a no-brainer. Thanks.

Automatic Monkey said:
As long as you are cool with the counting by 2's, you should find it easier than High-Low and you'll wring just a little more money out of those shoes.
If others can do it, I believe I can do it, too. Ring out the old, and wring in the new!
 

Kasi

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Automatic Monkey said:
Now you've got it- skip those negative counts! Less money risked, less stress, more profit.
Not sure about total money risked, almost certainly more profit, but less stress?

I would think u might lose more dollars in a standard deviation due to the increased unit and average bet size back-counting compared to play-all playing to same bankroll with same ROR.

I call that more stress :)
 

aslan

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Kasi said:
Not sure about total money risked, almost certainly more profit, but less stress?

I would think u might lose more dollars in a standard deviation due to the increased unit and average bet size back-counting compared to play-all playing to same bankroll with same ROR.

I call that more stress :)
Actually, I experienced less stress for a number of reasons: (1) I wasn't betting two hands at once which had resulted in nearly doubling my losses in a terribly negative session, (2) I reduced my max bet from 10X to 7X to 8X, (3) while my biggest losses come during positive counts when I am betting max, most of the time I do win during these counts, and (4) I have finally come to grips with the fact that if I am going to count cards, I MUST be willing to bet high during positive counts regardless of the outcome. I am not advocating not betting two hands at once, on the contrary, I think it's a good strategy, but not so if it results in you overbetting your BR as I did. As I rebuild my BR, I will begin to reincorporate this strategy.
 

Kasi

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aslan said:
Actually, I experienced less stress for a number of reasons: (1) I wasn't betting two hands at once which had resulted in nearly doubling my losses in a terribly negative session, (2) I reduced my max bet from 10X to 7X to 8X, (3) while my biggest losses come during positive counts when I am betting max, most of the time I do win during these counts, and (4) I have finally come to grips with the fact that if I am going to count cards, I MUST be willing to bet high during positive counts regardless of the outcome. I am not advocating not betting two hands at once, on the contrary, I think it's a good strategy, but not so if it results in you overbetting your BR as I did. As I rebuild my BR, I will begin to reincorporate this strategy.
That's cool.

I'm pretty sure u were playing with different ROR's, like u also seem to say,
so of course u had less stress.

I don't even do this stuff, so take my advice any way u want, but, whatever u do, do it because u have 100% faith in what u r doing.

It's not enough to be willing to bet "high" in positive counts. Before u even play, figure everything out, and play like a robot.

If penetration changes from 5/6 to 4/6, know EXACTLY what u will do.

How do u even know u were overbetting ur bankroll and it was not just bad luck just because u had a negative session?

Losses, or wins, always occur because of what happens with the big bets out.

Do u have a clue what lowering ur max bet from 10X to 7X has?

Why 7 and not 8 or 6?

Why 10 in the first place?

Why play in the first place if u don't have confidence in how u will be playing?

Blah, blah, blah.

These are the mysteries to me. Or would be if I actually were to do it.

Good luck - it ain't easy, from what I gather.
 
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