86d my first casino visit

[Splittingten's]

I got 86'd my first casino visit. I got the tap within an hour of play while being down 100. The pit was friendly. They told me to my play was too good and to "go to (insert casino name here). They don't know what they're doing over there. You can count all you want. An hour later i decided to try to play again because I had to be there all night. Bad bad bad idea. After a few hours i was up 50 on the night then got the tap. This time not so friendly and 4 suits + a security guard this time. They put me on the first casino bus out of there and told me that if I came back they would arrest me. When the bus dropped me off I was in the middle of nowhere in a terrible neighborhood with homeless people all around me looking like they wanted to kill me so I took the first bus I saw to get the hell out of there. The bus I caught just so happened to be the bus to the casino the pit boss told me about during my first back off at the first casino I went to.
When I got to...Paradise casino the penetration was the best I have ever seen. EVER. I played the night away worry free and won 500. I went to another casino a few days later and won 1,000 after playing the night away. I guess the first casino was just a swet shop.
I have about 20 to 30 hours of play in and am so grateful I'm on the right side of the bell curve. My AV is super important right now that my bank roll is so small. I'm going to git the casinos again and try to get to a 10k BR. After that 20k then once I get to 15k or 20k i will consider scaling my business. In the mean time I'm hoping the very real chance I go broke doesn't realize itself.

 

[ZeeBabar]

If you do what your name here suggests, keep splitting 10's and you will get kicked off quite often.

After my first 240 hours of play, I had won $19k. After the next 250 hours of play during which I won ZERO, my BR remained the same.
This year, starting in January (lost $6300, lost another $3300 in February but won the next 6 months) I have won $16k (would have been $24k if I had not lost the first 2 months) so far playing $25 min. tables.

It aint easy. You learn a lot about yourself in this game. Have you tried the ROR (Risk of Ruibn) calculators since you say you have under $10k bankroll?

 

[Splittingten's]

I haven't tried using the ROR calculator. It's a little too complicated for me because I don't know how to figure out my standard deviation. Maybe you can help me. I have a 3.5k BR after now. My spread is 5-60. And the rules are standard. I assume my ROR is probably about 30%. If you do sim my ROR (please do) just use the hi lo count wit the illustrious 18, my betting spread and my bank roll size. I use more indexes but due to human error I wouldn't mind using just siming my RORwith the illustrious 18 to get a worst case scenario number. The pen in my games is slightly better than this but if you do sim it sim it with 1.5 decks out of 6 cut off. Eventhough I'm getting better pen than that. Especially at paradise casino.

 

[paymypush]

Let's hope the casino with the friendly pit boss doesn't exchange information with the casino that said boss recommended. Putting you on a bus to nowhere sounds very irresponsible. What if something happened to you? Was that your only choice?

Did they ask you for ID, read you the trespass act or give you anything in writing?

 

[ZeeBabar]

I haven't tried using the ROR calculator. It's a little too complicated for me because I don't know how to figure out my standard deviation. Maybe you can help me. I have a 3.5k BR after now. My spread is 5-60. And the rules are standard. I assume my ROR is probably about 30%. If you do sim my ROR (please do) just use the hi lo count wit the illustrious 18, my betting spread and my bank roll size. I use more indexes but due to human error I wouldn't mind using just siming my RORwith the illustrious 18 to get a worst case scenario number. The pen in my games is slightly better than this but if you d

You can use the free calculator. Standard Deviation be around 27.72. My advice is to include a wong in (plus TC2) and out (Minus TC) strategy and you would reduce your ROR substantially. Instead of playing $5-$60, you wong in at $15, $5 at anything less than TC2,

 

[Splittingten's]

They asked to see my ID and I complied. I realize I shouldn't have shown them and just left but it's a strange dynamic when you have 4 people in suits and a security guard surounding you. It wasn't my choice to get on that bus. I wanted to wait for my bus but they just shipped me off. They gave me some cheap piece of papper saying I was no longer welcome on their property but they worded it like I was a problem gambler. I don't wa t to share too much information but I'm pretty sure the casino I got 86d from doesn't own any other casinos. It's not a part of a chain like the MGM grand. I just hope my stupid decission doesn't come back to haunt me.that's the last time I play after getting a tap. Do you think i should not play rated at casino paradise to keep my name hidden?
Thanks for the advice about wonging. I do try to switch tables when the count drops below negativeone but when it's monday morning and you're the only person on the casino floor and there's only one game going sometimes you just have to bite the bullet.

 

[Midwest Player]

I got 86'd my first casino visit. I got the tap within an hour of play while being down 100. The pit was friendly. They told me to my play was too good and to "go to (insert casino name here). They don't know what they're doing over there. You can count all you want. An hour later i decided to try to play again because I had to be there all night. Bad bad bad idea. After a few hours i was up 50 on the night then got the tap. This time not so friendly and 4 suits + a security guard this time. They put me on the first casino bus out of there and told me that if I came back they would arrest me. When the bus dropped me off I was in the middle of nowhere in a terrible neighborhood with homeless people all around me looking like they wanted to kill me so I took the first bus I saw to get the hell out of there. The bus I caught just so happened to be the bus to the casino the pit boss told me about during my first back off at the first casino I went to.
When I got to...Paradise casino the penetration was the best I have ever seen. EVER. I played the night away worry free and won 500. I went to another casino a few days later and won 1,000 after playing the night away. I guess the first casino was just a swet shop.
I have about 20 to 30 hours of play in and am so grateful I'm on the right side of the bell curve. My AV is super important right now that my bank roll is so small. I'm going to git the casinos again and try to get to a 10k BR. After that 20k then once I get to 15k or 20k i will consider scaling my business. In the mean time I'm hoping the very real chance I go broke doesn't realize itself.

This trip report sounds kind of fishy to me. Most casinos don't back off a $5 to $60 dollar spread after only an hour of play. OP says she is female. Females naturally have great cover just by being female. Where was this anyway?

 

[Splittingten's]

I don't want to give up too much information as to where I'm playing, sorry. I know most casinos don't back off red chippers. That's why I was able to play forever at the other places with no heat. The first casino was just a swet shop. I'm surprised I got backed off too. Especially so early. The pit boss during the first back off told me something along the lines of "people don't think we swet red chippers but we do because blah blah" I told him I was only making about 10 dollars an hour worth of EV but he interjected with "yes but we have to watch your play with surveillance if we suspect something. It costs us time and money for the surveillance guy to be watching you."