A simple reminder

[shadroch]

Be sure to count your chips when the dealer gives them to you at the begiinning of the game, before you give them to her to color up and again before you give them to the cashier, and then double check your money when you get it.
Yesterday, at an unnamed casino, we were shorted twice while buying in at table games, and then my friend insisted he was shorted at the cashiers booth. Ten minutes of heated aurguements got him no where and then on the way home he found the missing $25 chip in a different pocket.
Everyone makes mistakes.Sometimes they even happen by accident.

 

[kewljason]

Be sure to count your chips when the dealer gives them to you at the begiinning of the game, before you give them to her to color up and again before you give them to the cashier, and then double check your money when you get it.
Yesterday, at an unmaned casino, we were shorted twice while buying in at table games, and then my friend insisted he was shorted at the cashiers booth. Ten minutes of heated aurguements got him no where and then on the way home he found the missing $25 chip in a different pocket.
Everyone makes mistakes.sometimes they even happen by accident.

Good advice and a good reminder, Shadroch. After all we are only dealing with small bits of clay, here. :laugh: It's easy to forget the real value.

I had an incident this past summer where I colored up $575 (all green) after a small win. I was making chit chat with the pit guy about a baseball game the previous night and not paying attention. I do remember the dealer saying $575, which was the correct total and then pushed a small pile of black and green towards me, which I scooped up and put in my pocket, without really checking. Again, stupidity on my part. When I got to the cage, I pulled out the chips and had 3 black and 3 green. I checked my pockets for holes, but found none.

It just goes to show, that those of us that play a lot, some of these tasks become so routine, we may not give it our full attention, but we really need to fight that inclination, so this is a good reminder. We are human after all.

In my defense concerning the above incident (although there is no real defense...lol) I usually don't color up such small amounts, opting to just walk away with a handful of chips, so when I do color up it tends to be a larger transaction, which I usually pay closer attention to. I forget the circumstances of why I colored up a small amount. Maybe it was my last session of the trip.

 

[Finrod]

Another Example

Yes! Good Advise.

I bet there are many stories like this.

I recently bought in at Craps table. Dealer counted out the chips, placed them in the middle of the table and called out the total. He then picked them up and placed them on the table in front of me. I picked them up and put them in my rack (without counting). There were some green chips and some red. I knew how many I was supposed to have.

I then played for a while without playing a single green chip.

I picked up my chips and left the table. Within 60 seconds I realized I was short a green chip. I checked all my pockets and even went back to the table to make sure I had not left one. Of course, came up with nothing.

To this day I believe the dealer palmed one when he set them in front of me.

Count your chips!

 

[Zero]

To this day I believe the dealer palmed one when he set them in front of me.

It's possible, but I think it's more likely you got hit by a rail thief.

0

 

[Dyepaintball12]

Good advice!

I bought into a Blackjack game the other day for $1,000 and the dealer takes the money, lays it out, then puts 2 stacks of 4 greens in front of her and pushes it towards me.

The floor said "Uh that's $200. He bought in for $1,000."

Be careful!

 

[junior_counter]

Trust your $ math.

As stated above, probably many stories.

Trust your math, don't rely on the dealer.

Was almost shorted $20 when cashing in bills for chips at a table. Handed her $200, in twenty dollar bills. Dealer called out $180. I could have sworn I gave her $200, but figured I must have made a mistake as the $20 bills were clearly laid out on the table. As I started to go into my wallet for another twenty, a nice citizen at the table pointed out to the dealer she had doubled up on one of the bills. Moved the overlapping bill aside, and was indeed $200.

Have never been shorted when coloring up, but am surprised not many people seem to count chips before handing to them to the dealer. I guess people figure the dealer won't make a mistake and short change them right in front of everyone’s eyes?

To make the chip exchange easier for the dealer and myself, I'll leave the odd chips out that can't be rounded up the higher color. I.e. keep 1 red chip in hand and color up 5 red chips for green. Plus, this is sort of a way to unsuspiciously rat hole chips. The dealer calls out the number cashed in, not total in hand. Total amount may or may not be mumbled to the pit boss, don't know? I don't think this is looked upon as trying to hide chips? Just a sensible individual not handing a dealer chips since they will be handed right back to them anyway without a color up. I figured it's doing the dealer a favor, but maybe it's frowned upon? Not many players to do this and just blindly push stacks of chips to the dealer.

 

[Billy C1]

I've been shorted more often at cages than at tables. Most of my toking is done when I color up before leaving a table so that might explain it somewhat being the dealers that are familiar with me don't take the chance.
Cage mistakes have never been in my favor------Hmmmm!

BillyC1

 

[pit15]

I've been shorted more often at cages than at tables. Most of my toking is done when I color up before leaving a table so that might explain it somewhat being the dealers that are familiar with me don't take the chance.
Cage mistakes have never been in my favor------Hmmmm!

BillyC1

I've had a cage employee give me **** for precounting the chips before handing them over. Then he made a comment after counting out the money "you want to count that to make sure it's right?" in a sarcastic way. Of course, I did, like I always do.

Sorry if I act like I don't trust you, it's because I don't!

 

[itrack]

One time I had a dealer color up a bunch of black chips with maybe a couple hundred in green also. I think the total was 3500, and somehow the dealer thought it would be a good idea to give me 9 purple chips. After counting it out and getting it verified by the pit boss(I think 2 of them actaully!), she started to stack the 100s in order to put them into the tray before giving me my money, and a ploppy says "I think you gave him too much money!!!" Thanks a lot buddy:whip: Obviously at this point I have to pretend like I wasn't even watching my chips, because now the pit thinks I'm trying to pull a fast one on them.

 

[Nynefingers]

To make the chip exchange easier for the dealer and myself, I'll leave the odd chips out that can't be rounded up the higher color. I.e. keep 1 red chip in hand and color up 5 red chips for green. Plus, this is sort of a way to unsuspiciously rat hole chips. The dealer calls out the number cashed in, not total in hand. Total amount may or may not be mumbled to the pit boss, don't know? I don't think this is looked upon as trying to hide chips? Just a sensible individual not handing a dealer chips since they will be handed right back to them anyway without a color up. I figured it's doing the dealer a favor, but maybe it's frowned upon? Not many players to do this and just blindly push stacks of chips to the dealer.

I used to do that, but now I just make sure I count the chips myself a couple of rounds before I color up and ensure that I know how much I am giving them. Occasionally you'll get a color up error and the floor will be on autopilot and confirm it. It is easier for them to screw up if you leave the odd amounts in there. Just make sure you aren't watching too closely so it won't look bad if the floor catches the error, and politely ask the dealer to count again if they make a mistake in the house's favor. I try to fix their error (in the house's favor, obv.) before they call the floor just so it draws less attention to the transaction.