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k mcmi

New Member
I need advice on a hypothetical problem that I may or many not be having.
What if you have been backed off from a couple of casinos, and it seems like anytime you give your name or rating card to be rated, it pops up in some data base as "back this player off". Now, I suppose you could obtain a new player rateing card in a different name, but let's say that you may come up against cash reporting requirments. Now you have to show real I.D to continue playing. You think about getting a fake I.D but wonder if the casinos have the ability to match your fake I.D against a bonafide database of real I.Ds, and you don't wnat to get in trouble for some kind of felony for having a fake I.D. How might you disguise your true identity. You would not be doing this to decieve anybody except for casinos where you would like to play. Any comments are appreciated.
Sincerely,
K MCMI
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Don't cash in your chips as the fake player ... if you just simply walk out with your chips in your pocket you can cash them in later in whatever way suits you -- a few at a time (so as to not have to show ID) -- or even have some friends cash them for you. Also, you can take a few low denomination chips to other casinos. Finally, hold on to the chips to play another day. They are money. Bring out some chips at the table and start using them.
Another possibility is rat-holing -- so they don't know.

--Mayor
 

BradRod

Well-Known Member
I had a scary experience over the weekend at a casino that I have been playing at somewhat regularly over the last few months. I decided I was not going to use my card to "get rated" a. I got backed off recently - different casino but, made me decide that I wanted to start playing under a fake ID so I wanted to back off from using my real one at all games for a while. b. their comps suck anyway.

I was playing for a while and the pit person --who I did not remember seeing before -- kept asking me for my ID . I kept declining. After a while he thanked me for giving the card albeit to someone else. I had not done that. They had my correct info and what I had done buy in wise throughout the day at different pits.

I had not seen anyone that I recognized well enough to know my first AND last name , player card # or other specific identifying info about me without a card. Any ideas as to how that was done ? Face recognition, ??

Mayor -- what did you mean by rat holing ?

Been away from here too long.

BradRod
 

Cyrano

Well-Known Member
Rat holing

It means sneaking chips into your pockets when the PCs aren't looking. This way, they can't get an accurate guage of how much you've won. Though it's probably not as effective, you can rat hole when you're losing to make it seem like you've lost more than you really did.

Brad your shorthand is a little different from mine so must clarify: a. = and?? b. = because??
 

BradRod

Well-Known Member
Re: Ratholing

<<<<<<<<<<<Brad your shorthand is a little different from mine so must clarify: a. = and?? b. = because?? >>>>>>>>>>>>

LOL. i think those would actually make sense in the context but, i really inteneded "a" to a and "b" to be b as I was listing 2 reasons for not wanting to give them my card. Reason a and reason b. Sorry if it is confusing reading.
 

Cyrano

Well-Known Member
Damn Literary Theory...

*lol* that makes more sense. I guess my major in English (Literary Theory emphasis) kicked in and I was deconstructing your post without even realizing it! You don't even want to know where I was going--Freudian and Marxist interpretations in hand. FYI I usually use btw = by the way and b/c = because.
 

Craig

New Member
Re: Damn Literary Theory...

You know if you don't want to give up an ID at the cage you don't have to, unless you have $10k to cash out. And if tou go to differnt booths and cage windows with $9999 at a time you can cash out without giving ID.
 

HeadStrong

New Member
BradRod

In my years of working for the bad guys (21 shift manager) I would have my pit bosses and a few key supervisors keep notebooks in their pockets with names, descriptions and player card numbers of repeat customers. Familiarity with your customers is always a good thing when you're the house. Its a good possibility that a supervisor or even a pit clerk had written your description down in a notebook or file months earlier and looked you up. We would even keep records of anything a customer mentioned like wife and kids names, where they worked, hobbies, etc... Makes you feel special when a manager that you barely rember talking to comes up and says, "Hi Brad, how did your son's baseball team doing?".

It is very unlikely they used face recognition, especially if you play on Indian land.
 
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