always dbl dn 11...
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Deathclutch
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Following only basic strategy with a H17 game you should double on that. There are times where you wouldn't make that move according to the count, but on the basic strategy trainer you should always double. Are you sure you had it set to H17 and not S17?
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BlackjackJoe
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All charts and strategy that I've ever seen indicate that when you have 11 you will always double down WITH THE EXCEPTION of the dealer having an up card of an Ace. I know it's basic strategy (probably too basic) but you always have to assume he's got a 10 under that card back. I would've played it like the sim suggested.
Blue Efficacy
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So then I assume you always take insurance?BlackjackJoe said:
Joe,BlackjackJoe said:
This assumption confounds me whenever I hear a discussion about proper blackjack strategy.
Case in Point: When regarding how to play 12 against a dealer's deuce up, typical players often say, "Don't hit 12 against a 12". That assumption gets them into trouble right there.
Now if the dealer really did have 12, you certaiinly should not hit since she would in fact have a bad hand. But which is she more likely to have in the hole; a 10,Jack, Queen, King -- or a 5, 6, 7, 8, 9???? There are four cards that will give her 12, but five cards that will give her 7 thru 11. She's more likely to have a decent drawing hand, than 12. As for having any of the other cards down (A, 2, 3, 4) these do not "pigeonhole" her hand very much.
Assuming the dealer has a 10 in the hole is exactly the same as assuming your next card will be a 10, or that every next card out of the shoe will be a 10. Now, where are all those 10's going to come from when 216 cards out of a 312 card shoe are some other kind of card???
If you still tend to rely on the "10 in the hole" theory, then take a good look at the blackjack layout felt where it says, "Insurance pays 2-to-1". That means, whenever the dealer has an Ace up, the house is willing to lay you 2-to-1 odds that she doesn't have a 10 in the hole. Why do you suppose they're doing that??
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((Assuming the dealer has a 10 in the hole is exactly the same as assuming your next card will be a 10, or that every next card out of the shoe will be a 10. Now, where are all those 10's going to come from when 216 cards out of a 312 card shoe are some other kind of card???
If you still tend to rely on the "10 in the hole" theory, then take a good look at the blackjack layout felt where it says, "Insurance pays 2-to-1". That means, whenever the dealer has an Ace up, the house is willing to lay you 2-to-1 odds that she doesn't have a 10 in the hole. Why do you suppose they're doing that??))
***Best post I have ever read concerning doubling down on 11.
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((Assuming the dealer has a 10 in the hole is exactly the same as assuming your next card will be a 10, or that every next card out of the shoe will be a 10. Now, where are all those 10's going to come from when 216 cards out of a 312 card shoe are some other kind of card???
If you still tend to rely on the "10 in the hole" theory, then take a good look at the blackjack layout felt where it says, "Insurance pays 2-to-1". That means, whenever the dealer has an Ace up, the house is willing to lay you 2-to-1 odds that she doesn't have a 10 in the hole. Why do you suppose they're doing that??))
***Best post I have ever read concerning doubling down on 11.
)Deathangl13
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I sometimes use the Wizard's Basic Strategy, and I double an 11 as long as I am holding a higher upcard (dealer has 10 or lower)