Anybody have any Vegas requests?

[Doofus]

I am off to LV today for a long weekend with the warden. Among other things, I am planning to play some of the old traditional single deck which apparently still survives just at El Cortez and Four Queens.

Seeing that I have obtained some great and valuable info from the board, I thought I would ask if anybody has any requests for me to do any scouting or check out any reports. I can't guarantee that I'll be able to fulfill them, but I will give it the old college try. I'll also post some of my own impressions when I return next week.

 

[EasyRhino]

If you want to super micro-roll it, go to the end of the boulder highway, and check out longhorn and nevada palace. $1 and $2 tables. Not particularly quality games, but it's a hoot.

 

[Doofus]

If you want to super micro-roll it, go to the end of the boulder highway, and check out longhorn and nevada palace. $1 and $2 tables. Not particularly quality games, but it's a hoot.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Well, Caesar's Palace kept about $700 of my money playing at $25 a clip last night. On the other hand, my old haunt the Bellagio, at S17 tables, pushed me whilst playing with black chips. Funny thing that volatility!

 

[EasyRhino]

a) What were the rules on the Caesar's game? My understanding is they were quite possibly crappy.

b) There's no way you're adequately bankrolled to be counting at the Bellagio, is there?

 

[jetace]

I've got a request, see if El Cortez or 4 Queens have changed their rules since the big 100,000 win.

 

[Kasi]

Well, Caesar's Palace kept about $700 of my money playing at $25 a clip last night. On the other hand, my old haunt the Bellagio, at S17 tables, pushed me whilst playing with black chips. Funny thing that volatility!

Last Nov the Trop had an S17 DAS DA2 game with late surrender.

It wasn't posted though, I had to ask if they had it. When she said yes, after I fell over backwards , I played it at a $10 table since the $5 tables were full.

 

[Doofus]

a) What were the rules on the Caesar's game? My understanding is they were quite possibly crappy.

b) There's no way you're adequately bankrolled to be counting at the Bellagio, is there?

Several different games at Caesars. Mostly H17 6 deck as I could see. If you fancy your cards being dealt by scantily clad women, then you can have H17, double only on 10 and 11, and no doubling after split. No thanks.

I'm not really counting at the Bellagio. I was doing the Ace/10 front count, playing on $50 minimum tables, bumping up to $200 a hand if a lot of babies were dealt out of the first two decks.

Sunday I whacked the Bellagio for about $1700, and took another $200 in a couple of hands as I was walking to the checkout this morning. Jumped into a game which had a lot of small cards out on the felt for a couple of hands running, and pulled a 19 on one hand and a 10-6-5 on the second.

By the way, Bellagio sucks for comps. Don't expect any unless you're a losing schmuck. This was my second stay there when I was not-so-politely informed that unless I played for 4 hours a day, every day, $100 a hand average I would not be comped anything. Maybe the pit boss accurately reported my win totals this time and last (about 2K).

 

[Doofus]

I've got a request, see if El Cortez or 4 Queens have changed their rules since the big 100,000 win.

Didn't notice any changes to the 4 Queens game. The SD pitch game has $5-500 spread, no double after split. Only two tables of true SD. And the red-headed woman dealer must have really been something back in the Eisenhower Administration.

Didn't get to El Cortez. Maybe next week, when Mrs. Doofus has indicated I may be allowed to return to Vegas for a few days of solo gaming.

 

[Doofus]

Last Nov the Trop had an S17 DAS DA2 game with late surrender.

It wasn't posted though, I had to ask if they had it. When she said yes, after I fell over backwards , I played it at a $10 table since the $5 tables were full.

Yes, by chance I got to the Tropicana late last night. They had exactly this game. However, I was there VERY late, and only as an afterthought. After about 20 minutes of quiet play with a couple of derelicts, I got cheated on a hand by an Filipina dealer, realizing what she did only after she swiped the cards from the table. Since I was too tired to realize it before I could do anything without making a big stink, I took my chips and left, and don't particularly care to return because of what happened.

 

[Kasi]

I got to the Tropicana late last night. They had exactly this game.

Thanks for the update. Nice to know it's still there. I think it allowed mid-shoe entry too.

Sounds like you're having fun!

Good luck.

 

[EasyRhino]

I got cheated on a hand by an Filipina dealer, realizing what she did only after she swiped the cards from the table.

Did she collect your bet on a winning or pushing hand? Usually the cards are swiped is such a way that she could quickly "rebuild" the hands. And, worst case, you could always get the floor to go back to the tape. I probably would have thrown a (polite) fit.

It's obviously better to catch those mistakes earlier, which is why I'll usually stop the dealer if you even THINK the bet might be getting collected on accident.

 

[Doofus]

Did she collect your bet on a winning or pushing hand? Usually the cards are swiped is such a way that she could quickly "rebuild" the hands. And, worst case, you could always get the floor to go back to the tape. I probably would have thrown a (polite) fit.

It's obviously better to catch those mistakes earlier, which is why I'll usually stop the dealer if you even THINK the bet might be getting collected on accident.

It was just a $100 hand (or was it $25?) and to be truthful I was just too darn tired to have been playing anyway. Yes, I could have asked the eye in the sky to go back and look at the tape, but to what end? I'd rather let them keep the c-note and be sure not ever to sit at her table again, rather than run the risk of having been wrong myself, and accusing her of cheating me incorrectly (which could have happened, but I am 80% sure I was). Yes, she could have just done it accidently, as well, but she was very snotty at me when I perked up and asked her to stop. Anyway, I was just too tired to know exactly what was going on, which meant it was time to quit. All in all, this was a good and cheap lesson for me about not gambling at 3am.

 

[ChefJJ]

It was just a $100 hand (or was it $25?) and to be truthful I was just too darn tired to have been playing anyway. Yes, I could have asked the eye in the sky to go back and look at the tape, but to what end? I'd rather let them keep the c-note and be sure not ever to sit at her table again, rather than run the risk of having been wrong myself, and accusing her of cheating me incorrectly (which could have happened, but I am 80% sure I was). Yes, she could have just done it accidently, as well, but she was very snotty at me when I perked up and asked her to stop. Anyway, I was just too tired to know exactly what was going on, which meant it was time to quit. All in all, this was a good and cheap lesson for me about not gambling at 3am.

Point taken that you were tired and not really willing to go through the BS at that time but just like Easy said, the dealers are trained to clear the table so they can "back up" the hands when there is a discrepancy.

good luck

 

[EasyRhino]

Cheap?

At my betting level, $25 or $100 is at least one hour, and perhaps multiple hours, of EV. Would I toss that away because I was tired? No way.

And if you were leaving anyway, then there wouldn't have been any harm in antagonizing the dealer!

 

[jimbiggs]

I've got a request, see if El Cortez or 4 Queens have changed their rules since the big 100,000 win.

I've been to both since the alleged big win and neither have changed much. Does anyone really believe that one person won $100K in one weekend with max bets of $500? That's hard to believe.

 

[shadroch]

I believe it is true. I read it here,therefore it must be true.

 

[moo321]

I've been to both since the alleged big win and neither have changed much. Does anyone really believe that one person won $100K in one weekend with max bets of $500? That's hard to believe.

That's not at all weird. I've won over 100 units clearing an online bonus, and that's 200 units. With all the visitors it probably happens a few times a year at each casino, just not 200 units of $500.

 

[Kasi]

Does anyone really believe that one person won $100K in one weekend with max bets of $500? That's hard to believe.

I sort of wondered the same thing when I read it, especially since it seemed like some "publicity" article for downtown. Like maybe that didn't include his buy in when he hands over the money.

Maybe the manager guy is like my wife, who just said to me tonite, "I won $900 on our last trip to Vegas". Which she did in like 4 hands at the 3-card table. In a way, she wasn't even lying. Unfortunately she came home with $600 less than she left with lol.

Maybe he played a few other games.

You don't hear other casinos suddenly somehow thinking that somebody won $100K is for some reason newsworthy.

Let alone giving out enough clues that it might just be possible to identify the customer by casino personnel who have no business knowing who he is or what he "won". How many Frenchman were there that weekend anyway? Aren't such things supposed to be confidential?

Even if true, I don't like them exploiting it the way they did.

More likely, total PR.