Backed off...from table 14 (long)

ZOD

Well-Known Member
Some time back, I'm in a casino where I'm on a pleasant first name basis with many of the dealers and pit personnel. The games offered are only decent, but very playable with the spreads that are allowed. I'd been at a 6D table for an hour or so, up a few units, when the count skyrocketed in the middle of the shoe. I shoved out my max bet and (as often seems to be the case) I got the dreaded 16 with the dealer showing a queen. Unfortunately, I had no surrender option so my only choice was to stand and take my medicine.

I had been joking with the dealer and talking about hands we'd seen, people at the tables and such, so I pulled a minor stunt that's usually good for a laugh: While hesitating as if I was unsure what to do, I asked the dealer what she had down. She smiled and quipped that she couldn't tell me that. So I leaned over so that my head was at the table level and tried to look under her downcard. Coming up, I immediately announced "I'll stay. You've got a six under there." The expected laugh did not follow. She got a very serious look on her face and called the floor. He came over, said hello to me, and asked what was up. She explained that I had looked under her downcard and that it was a six so I had chosen to stay. He thought for a second and then asked if I could really see the card. I told him not really; I just did it for a laugh.

He didn't laugh. He told her to finish the hand. I stayed and she turned over...of course, a six and proceeded to bust! She paid me off and he congratulated me and turned and walked away. Though I was happy to have won, I didn't at all like the vibe that I was getting, so I decided to play a few more high count hands and take my leave.

After three or four more hands the pit boss returned with a look grim enough to send a chill down my spine. He told the dealer to stop dealing and said, "Mr. Zod, I'm afraid that I'm going to have to ask you to..." Sh*t, I thought. All this over a joke. Then he finished, "...move to another table." I told him I didn't understand and he explained that they had decided to close this table and I could move to another. I did, played a few more hands, and then left for the steakhouse dinner that he had comped me earlier.

I ran into him a couple of hours later and he asked me again if I had actually seen the downcard. "Of course, I said. "That's why I always win so much." He had a good laugh and told me he'd see me next weekend.

Since then, I have played in this casino many times with no residual effect other than the joke that I'm not allowed to play at table 14.

Best,

ZOD
 

john

Well-Known Member
wow

wow, that is a new one. I know what you mean, though. It seems like there is so much money flowing back and forth from dealer to customer that the dealers and pit bosses often lose their sense of humor.

One time, I said "I need a blackjack !". The dealer thought I said, "I need a black back." and immediately called for the pitboss to come over. A ploppy realized what was going on and stepped in and said, "no, he said he wanted a blackjack." and problem was solved.

I wish I had been at your table. It sounded like a funny joke to me. I guess if you win a giant bet like it sounds like you had out, the pit bosses can't really laugh at the jokes.

I need to be a pit boss for one day. I think it would help me be a better blackjack player.
 

LV Bear

Administrator
"Pit boss for a day"

I need to be a pit boss for one day. I think it would help me be a better blackjack player.

Several years ago, I enrolled at a dealer's course for exactly that purpose. It was well worth the time and money.
 

Hal Jordan

Active Member
Back to School

I'm glad to hear that it was worth the time because I have been considering doing the same thing.

HJ
 

Royam

Well-Known Member
Do you think they retain your profile?

I can imagine that casino employees get their photo and ID in a big file... doesn't sound like something a card counter would like, does it?

Royam
 

SammyBoy

Well-Known Member
I've had the same thoughts

In fact I remember mentioning something to that effect on one of the boards and got alot of negative feed back about working for the other side and the like. I agree with you guys that it is very important to know the enemy. That's why I like to visit the dealer message board so much. I wish I had a good friend or relative who worked for the casinos.
 

Victoria

Well-Known Member
cute story, but you never really know

You never really know what is going on between dealers, the pit, the eye and the boss. 99 of 100 times your joke is taken as a joke. One out of 13 times you actually call the correct hole card (keep a 6 side count and you may improve on this)
The thing is, did they have someone yesterday getting hole card info? Did they have some dealer cheating with players? Is that dealer under unusal suspicion? Is there an internal thing going on between eye and pit? These kind of things can turn a good joke into a problem for these people today while it might have been a laugh for them yesterday.
After shutting down the table someone might have reviewed the tapes, checked the cards for marking (tough in the shoe game) or might have sat in your seat and actually checked to see how low they had to sit to see the card based upon the dealers method of dealing.
Since you are welcomed there (except for table 14) I would guess the use of your mental powers to predict dealer stiffs is now completely allowed, so you can continue to use these powers as cover. Beware! eventually you may be barred from every table, one at a time.
Victoria
 

ZOD

Well-Known Member
True

Your right. You can't always know what they're thinking inside that pit. (Or upstairs, for that matter.) In the long run though, I've gotten plenty of mileage out of that day. The pit boss involved once even told the story to a few other players at my table, commenting on my remarkable eyesight.

Though I enjoy the challenge of establishing good rapport and pride myself on my gambling "act", I think no damage was really done simply because I'm a consistent loser on their tables. (Grin) After looking at my numbers, I'm sure they concluded that I was welcome in the their casino even with my "superpowers."

Best,

ZOD
 
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