Basic Strategy !!!! Question??? Help)!

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tynai2010

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I downloaded the Casino Verite Lite demo and set the game up to how it will be at my casino (or close anyway). I thought I was understanding and remembering the basic strategy for the set up but a few times the software said I should have hit rather than doubled or hit rather than stand.

I got the strategy chart from this site and followed it. The games setup is: Dealer hits soft 17, no surrender (since I won't be using it), Insurance is allowed, Double down after split, double down hard and soft, resplit up to 4 hands (it may be less at the casino but I know it's at least 3).

I had drawn an 11 and the dealer had a 9 so I doubled and the software said I should have just hit. The True Count was -16 but I wasn't basing my play on the counts (I guess there might be a way to turn off true count within the software; I'll look later). According to the chart, you should always double an 11 even when the dealer has an Ace; although, I don't always do this since I usually get a very low card. I thought that even when you count you should stick with the Basic Strategy? I know there are some variations to the rule; but, I haven't gotten that far in my schooling yet.

Any pointers would be appreciated as I have a lot to learn still. :joker:

Thanks!
 
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tthree

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If you are counting and making true count conversions from the running count learn your true count indices for the important hand match ups for your counting system. The illustrious 18 is a good place to start. These are the 18 most important indices due to either their frequency of use or the money they generate.
 
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MangoJ

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Basic strategy is valid for TC=0.

What tthree means, different TCs need different strategy. The strategy variations are called "indices", they are thresholds above/below which you should deviate from basic strategy.

The reason why you double almost all 11 on basic strategy is, that you are likely to receive a 10, which gives your hand a perfect 21. This likelihood is greatly reduced on a negative count (especially TC=-16!), where a lot of tens are missing.
 
aslan

aslan

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FLASH1296 said:

These posts are not "views"; they are FACTS.
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Calm down, Flash. :laugh: They're views unless you know differently. The OP does not know differently. As far as tynai2010 knows, some inexperienced blackjack enthusiast fielded the question. There is wisdom in many counsels. ;)
 
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bjcardcounter

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tynai2010 said:
yah! thank you useful information! anyone else any views??:eyepatch::laugh:
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what are those smileys for? go play 100 or 1000 hands with the same count and the same exact hand and you will know for sure what he is talking about.
 
FLASH1296

FLASH1296

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My strident response was worded thus, for the specific purpose of altering the rookie mind-set that, in fact, holds that there are different "views" on how to play the game.
 
aslan

aslan

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FLASH1296 said:
My strident response was worded thus, for the specific purpose of altering the rookie mind-set that, in fact, holds that there are different "views" on how to play the game.
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On that level, this is so very true, and worth repeating again and again... at least, for their benefit. :)
 
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rrwoods

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I understand what you're trying to say, Flash, but that statement is only broad enough to apply to the math. The math comes first, obviously, but there are more facets to advantage gambling than just math, many of which involve a human factor. Thus there can indeed be different "correct" "views" on how to play any given game.
 
FLASH1296

FLASH1296

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As I said, my remarks were targeting the ROOKIE mind-set.
"BJ 101", as so to speak, is math-intensive, to understate the case.
 
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