Beating Roulette

[Licentia]

For years now, I have had programs that I wrote in QuickBasic, designed to find a method of beating Roulette.

The way the program was designed, was to increase bets by 1 unit after a winning session, and decrease them by 1 unit after a losing session. I believed - correctly - that if you bet higher while on a winning streak, and lower while on a losing streak, that you should beat the house in the long run.

The program would run and for a time I would make my money back again and again, but eventually a time would come where I would not make my money back. It would spiral hopelessly downward. I was always baffled at this, it simply did not seem logical.

By doubling bets and dividing bets by 2, instead of increasing/decreasing by 1 unit, I would eventually make my money back, but the bets would have to rise far too high for a reasonable bankroll, and far above any casino's table limit. It seemed hopeless...

Last night I found the answer. Sadly I cannot take credit for it. I got the answer from someone else. It is so simple though. How blind I have been!!!

Now I can run that same program over hundreds of millions of spins and come out ahead every single time, my bets never rising higher than table limits allow.

Anyone who can tell me how I do it, I will consider an Einstein.

But please, don't post the response in this thread. Lest the blind should see and the deaf hear. Private Message me.

Now it's time to apply the system to BlackJack...

Think hard, think hard!

Licentia.

 

[Sonny]

The program would run and for a time I would make my money back again and again, but eventually a time would come where I would not make my money back. It would spiral hopelessly downward. I was always baffled at this, it simply did not seem logical.

Not only is that result logical, it should be expected. That is exactly how negative progression systems work. Please read the sticky thread at the top of this forum to see dozens of explanations why this will always be the case and why any progression system will eventually lose.

I believed - correctly - that if you bet higher while on a winning streak, and lower while on a losing streak, that you should beat the house in the long run.

The problem is that you cannot predict when these streaks will happen or how long they will last. We have explained this to you many times. If you do a little research, either by reading the articles I mentioned above or by re-reading the responses to your old posts, you will discover exactly where the flaw in your thinking is. Please don’t turn this into another “magic progression” rant.

-Sonny-

 

[shadroch]

If you bet two units on the spins you win,and only one on the spins you lose,you'll do pretty well in the long run.

 

[Sonny]

If you bet two units on the spins you win,and only one on the spins you lose,you'll do pretty well in the long run.

Sure, that would work great if the casino lets you make your bets after the ball lands. It wouldn’t be as good as proportional betting, but it would work. Unfortunately that’s not legal. So on to step 2: Predicting where the ball will land. We can’t do that by watching the streaks since every spin is an independent event. We also can’t do it by tracking the results of our sessions for the same reason. Without any reliable information our betting system doesn’t accomplish anything.

-Sonny-

 

[Dyepaintball12]

Sounds great.

Will you tell me your secret about how you know when your winning streak will start and end?

 

[Chapel]

If it is so simple why would you consider them an Einstein?

Changing the amount you bet doesn't change the expected value of the bet.

 

[callipygian]

I can run that same program over hundreds of millions of spins and come out ahead every single time, my bets never rising higher than table limits allow.

Anyone who can tell me how I do it, I will consider an Einstein.

Don't place any bets at roulette. Put the money in an interest-bearing account and walk away with positive expectation after 100 million spins.

 

[shadroch]

Sure, that would work great if the casino lets you make your bets after the ball lands. It wouldn’t be as good as proportional betting, but it would work. Unfortunately that’s not legal. So on to step 2: Predicting where the ball will land. We can’t do that by watching the streaks since every spin is an independent event. We also can’t do it by tracking the results of our sessions for the same reason. Without any reliable information our betting system doesn’t accomplish anything.

-Sonny-

Okay,I admit I don't have all the details ironed out yet,but it is a promising start,no?

 

[la_dee_daa]

Anyone who can tell me how I do it, I will consider an Einstein.

i believe einstein said the only way to beat roulette was to steal money from the table.

this is a sure way to come out ahead but is a little risky.

you could work a progression into this.. take one chip from the house if your spin wins take 2 next time if it loses take one less. this will eliminate the suspision of getting more chips when you lose on spins.:joker:

:cow:

 

[aslan]

For years now, I have had programs that I wrote in QuickBasic, designed to find a method of beating Roulette.

The way the program was designed, was to increase bets by 1 unit after a winning session, and decrease them by 1 unit after a losing session. I believed - correctly - that if you bet higher while on a winning streak, and lower while on a losing streak, that you should beat the house in the long run.

The program would run and for a time I would make my money back again and again, but eventually a time would come where I would not make my money back. It would spiral hopelessly downward. I was always baffled at this, it simply did not seem logical.

By doubling bets and dividing bets by 2, instead of increasing/decreasing by 1 unit, I would eventually make my money back, but the bets would have to rise far too high for a reasonable bankroll, and far above any casino's table limit. It seemed hopeless...

Last night I found the answer. Sadly I cannot take credit for it. I got the answer from someone else. It is so simple though. How blind I have been!!!

Now I can run that same program over hundreds of millions of spins and come out ahead every single time, my bets never rising higher than table limits allow.

Anyone who can tell me how I do it, I will consider an Einstein.

But please, don't post the response in this thread. Lest the blind should see and the deaf hear. Private Message me.

Now it's time to apply the system to BlackJack...

Think hard, think hard!

Licentia.

If you can really do it, you have no need to apply it to blackjack until after you collect millions and millions of dollars at roulette and can afford to waste your time with the piddling game of blackjack. Obviously, your need for attention has far outpaced your need for a sound basis for gambling at roulette or any other game. Your new system, which apparently employs a strategy to slow down the effect of doubling, which reaches house limits in no time, will not work in the long run, no matter what your apparent results seem to say. Don't try it in the real world unless you're prepared for one of the biggest shocks of your lifetime. The math is ironclad. It doesn't and it can't work in the long run. Keep living in the short run and you'll be all right, although you may find that a little paranoia begins to settle in. After that, all bets are off!

 

[dacium]

Every mathematician in the world would like to speak with you. Because you are done what they have mathematically proved 100% was impossible.

in other words you are an idiot who is so dumb you can't even see why your flawed system fails.

 

[zengrifter]

this is a sure way to come out ahead but is a little risky.

Say what? Huh? Are you a candidate for office? zg

 

[zengrifter]

My Modified Strategy Real Casino Results:
Day 1: $5 Base bets, 5.5 hours play: +$167.00 (after tips)
Day 2: $5 Base bets, 7 hours play: +$867.00 (after tips)
Day 3: $5 Base bets, 5 hours play: -$50.00 (after tips)
Day 4: $5 Base bets, 4 hours play: +$520.00 (after tips)

Eureka! They said the Wright Bros would never fly! Show us what she's got! zg

 

[aslan]

If you bet two units on the spins you win,and only one on the spins you lose,you'll do pretty well in the long run.

Retro-betting is a difficult skill. I believe they put you in jail in Nevada if they catch you.

 

[sagefr0g]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Licentia
this is a sure way to come out ahead but is a little risky.
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Say what? Huh? Are you a candidate for office? zg

that's what they say about card counting.

 

[Licentia]

Eureka! They said the Wright Bros would never fly! Show us what she's got! zg

I will keep posting and eventually release my method. Probably in July. That is when I move back to another city and when I get serious about God. I will be giving up gambling. I'm not interested in money, just to prove that it can be done. Proving it is an obsession for me.

Licentia.

As John Wesley said:

"At this time, more especially, will we speak, that "by grace are ye saved through faith": because, never was the maintaining this doctrine more seasonable than it is at this day. Nothing but this can effectually prevent the increase of the Romish delusion among us. It is endless to attack, one by one, all the errors of that Church. But salvation by faith strikes at the root, and all fall at once where this is established. It was this doctrine, which our Church justly calls the strong rock and foundation of the Christian religion, that first drove Popery out of these kingdoms; and it is this alone can keep it out. Nothing but this can give a check to that immorality which hath "overspread the land as a flood.""

 

[Canceler]

Here's the secret to a successful betting system:

My Modified Strategy Real Casino Results:
Days 1-5: $5 Base bets, 27.5 hours play: +$1334.00 (after tips)
Day 6: $5 Base bets, 3 hours play: +$25.00 (after tips)
{Not including results from the CSM disaster day. Those accursed machines!}
Day 7: I am going to play a more aggressive style today.

Licentia.

YOU SIMPLY IGNORE THE BAD RESULTS!

 

[Licentia]

Here's the secret to a successful betting system:

YOU SIMPLY IGNORE THE BAD RESULTS!

Please don't grasp at straws to accuse me. I have not been dishonest in any way.

I will include all bad results that are played at Shoe games. Do not worry. I have done so up until now and will continue to do so, like my losing session today. I will never sit down at a CSM table ever again so there will be no more need to include results from a CSM game, good or bad.

If I hadn't played at the CSM I wouldn't have lost near as much!

Unfortunately my thread about having played at the CSM for the first time since last year was deleted for unexplained reasons. Probably Jesuits are responsible! lol

Truly however, I doubted that it was the CSMs that ruined me last year, but now I am certain of it. How, I don't know, but those accursed machines ruin my system.

Licentia

 

[Sonny]

Truly however, I doubted that it was the CSMs that ruined me last year, but now I am certain of it. How, I don't know, but those accursed machines ruin my system.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. How long can you ignore the obvious flaws in your system? How long can you ignore all the people trying to help you? How long can you ignore all the proof that exists? How long will you refuse to test your system properly? How long can you find other things to blame for your failures? How long can you live the lie?

You say that you are only interested in proving that your system works, yet you refuse to read anything related to it, study any of the theories involved, learn the relevant math, improve your computer programming skills, or test your system properly. To make things worse you also refuse to listen to the people who have read about it, know the theories, understand the math and have seen the computer simulations. You’re not trying to prove anything, you’re just trying to convince yourself that it works despite all the proof that it doesn’t. You’re doing everything you can to ignore all the answers that you claim to be looking for. Don't claim to be on some noble search for truth when you're really just finding excuses to justify your gambling problem. You can lie to yourself, but don’t lie to us.

Don’t waste our time with that nonsense. Until you are ready to listen and learn, your repetitive posts will continue to be deleted and your tedious threads will be locked (like this one).

-Sonny-