best cards ending up behind the cut card

[sagefr0g]

i'm curious to know if there have been any studies or simulations for multiple deck games (especially eight deck games) that show if there is a relationship with respect to the probability of the best cards ending up behind the cut card depending on the appearance of an advantageous positive true count at a given number of decks dealt from a shoe.
the point would be that if such a relationship exists that it could be advantageous to adjust your 'optimal' bets accordingly.

best regards,
mr fr0g

 

[ScottH]

i'm curious to know if there have been any studies or simulations for multiple deck games (especially eight deck games) that show if there is a relationship with respect to the probability of the best cards ending up behind the cut card depending on the appearance of an advantageous positive true count at a given number of decks dealt from a shoe.
the point would be that if such a relationship exists that it could be advantageous to adjust your 'optimal' bets accordingly.

best regards,
mr fr0g

Well obviously if you see the cut card about to come out and the count is super high, that means all your tens and aces are behind the cut card. But you wouldn't change your bet at all. You know most are behind the cut card, but since you really dont know where the remaining cards are at, you can assume they are randomly mixed throught the remaining cards.

The farther down the pack you go, and the higher the true count, the more likely good cards are behind the cut card, but it shouldn't affect betting decisions at all.

 

[sagefr0g]

Well obviously if you see the cut card about to come out and the count is super high, that means all your tens and aces are behind the cut card. But you wouldn't change your bet at all. You know most are behind the cut card, but since you really dont know where the remaining cards are at, you can assume they are randomly mixed throught the remaining cards.

The farther down the pack you go, and the higher the true count, the more likely good cards are behind the cut card, but it shouldn't affect betting decisions at all.

yea this issue tends to confuse me. i'm guessing the issue gets back to that floating advantage issue and the true count theorum that was being discussed earlier. i'll re-check Schlesinger's treatment of the floating advantage in Blackjack Attack and see if it helps clarify this any.

best regards,
mr fr0g

 

[sagefr0g]

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Originally Posted by sagefr0g View Post
i'm curious to know if there have been any studies or simulations for multiple deck games (especially eight deck games) that show if there is a relationship with respect to the probability of the best cards ending up behind the cut card depending on the appearance of an advantageous positive true count at a given number of decks dealt from a shoe.
the point would be that if such a relationship exists that it could be advantageous to adjust your 'optimal' bets accordingly.

best regards,
mr fr0g

Well obviously if you see the cut card about to come out and the count is super high, that means all your tens and aces are behind the cut card. But you wouldn't change your bet at all. You know most are behind the cut card, but since you really dont know where the remaining cards are at, you can assume they are randomly mixed throught the remaining cards.

The farther down the pack you go, and the higher the true count, the more likely good cards are behind the cut card, but it shouldn't affect betting decisions at all.

ok i checked out Schelsinger's treatment of the floating point advantage. the weird thing is if i'm understanding the floating point advantage correctly is it has the opposite effect of the effect i was trying to allude to in my original post.
so in a sense if the effect i originally allude to does exist it would tend to be cancelled out by the floating point advantage. i suppose the net effect would be as you say don't change your betting decisions at all.

best regards,
mr fr0g