Best recent mailer.

[FLASH1296]

I just got a mailer from a casino in Mississippi that offers very good low stakes play.

I received 2 FREE ACE coupons that can be used on consecutive days in mid August.

They have a $100 max limit. There is no restriction on getting a BJ, etc.

For anyone who does not know the advantage, (off-the-top) to have a free ACE as your first card is over 51%.

That means that each coupon is worth over $51, (and a buck or two more at higher True Counts).

 

[daddybo]

yeah Baby!

Check your PM's oh zenmaster...

 

[shadroch]

You recieved about $100 worth of coupons from a casino that would cost you three times that to get to. I'm not all that impressed. I certainly wouldn't make an extra trip to it, will you? Nor would I make $100 bet with the coupon if I normally was a red chipper.

 

[daddybo]

You recieved about $100 worth of coupons from a casino that would cost you three times that to get to. I'm not all that impressed. I certainly wouldn't make an extra trip to it, will you? Nor would I make $100 bet with the coupon if I normally was a red chipper.

spoilsport

 

[dumbWinner]

I got one of these today for a local casino. 4 match play coupons and one ACE coupon for upto $25. I have never used a ace coupon before. How do we bet using these ? Should we wait for certain count and use it for it to be most optimal ? I can try for a $25 Blackjack :cool2:

 

[shadroch]

I once had a dealer let me use a MP as I split Aces. In general, I use them when the count is in my favor. Bet as much as your comfort level allows you to. Just remember it's quite possible to lose each and every bet. in january, I lost on 8 straight MPs, including 2 that were doubled down. In the long run, MPs are great. short term anything can occur.

 

[FLASH1296]

dumbWinner,

An elementary lesson in "cover".

The value of the coupon will rise and fall slightly with the True Count.

That much is obvious; however, the difference in expectation is too small to be concerned about. The best way is to hand in your players card, show them to the floor-person and bet it immediately. To do otherwise in order to increase your expectation by 50 cents (or less) will have The Pit Boss and possibly surveillance watching you wait until the True Count is high before using it - just to squeeze out an extra buck or less. To do so is too ballsy. It is not worth it. They will see that as your "slapping them in the face".

You probably place your Max bet when your advantage approaches the 2% mark.
That is fairly standard play. Crunch the numbers. What is 2% of $25 ? Get it ?

 

[dumbWinner]

dumbWinner,

An elementary lesson in "cover".

The value of the coupon will rise and fall slightly with the True Count.

That much is obvious; however, the difference in expectation is too small to be concerned about. The best way is to hand in your players card, show them to the floor-person and bet it immediately. To do otherwise in order to increase your expectation by 50 cents (or less) will have The Pit Boss and possibly surveillance watching you wait until the True Count is high before using it - just to squeeze out an extra buck or less. To do so is too ballsy. It is not worth it. They will see that as your "slapping them in the face".

will do that. I am thinking of playing as usual and pull it out as if i recalled i had this thing in my pockets when the count is good:eyepatch:

 

[stophon]

Coupon worth about 80 cents more for each higher true count.

 

[sagefr0g]

dumbWinner,

An elementary lesson in "cover".

The value of the coupon will rise and fall slightly with the True Count.

That much is obvious; however, the difference in expectation is too small to be concerned about. The best way is to hand in your players card, show them to the floor-person and bet it immediately. To do otherwise in order to increase your expectation by 50 cents (or less) will have The Pit Boss and possibly surveillance watching you wait until the True Count is high before using it - just to squeeze out an extra buck or less. To do so is too ballsy. It is not worth it. They will see that as your "slapping them in the face".

You probably place your Max bet when your advantage approaches the 2% mark.
That is fairly standard play. Crunch the numbers. What is 2% of $25 ? Get it ?

point understood on the cover and glad you made the point as to how to figure the relative value of the coupon.

thing is in my experience in the relatively few venues i've been people don't necessarily bet their coupons as soon as they sit down. most seem to hold on to them and bet them when they think they will win with them for what ever voodoo or legit reason they may have.
just me maybe but it seems unnecessary not to try and maximize the value of your coupon while still managing to maintain cover.

 

[FLASH1296]

The point is ...


The idea is that a Pit Critter's vigilance for Card Counters would have him imagine that saving the coupons for a "high" count
is the thing that a Card Counter would do, because he is unable to compute the miniscule extra value of stalling on the coupon.

Seeing you bet it off the top deflects heat ... at a bargain price of course.

 

[shadroch]

When doing a hit and run with a MP, you backcount until the deck is in your favor, then jump in for the hand. Sure, you annoy some players but you are out of there after one decision anyway. Next week, I'll be hitting a minimum of 5 casinos each morning on coupon runs, until I have my expenses covered.

 

[Tarzan]

Couponomics

I wish I could get my mitts on more coupons and matchplays or whatever... "Ace Coupons"--What is THAT???

 

[shadroch]

I wish I could get my mitts on more coupons and matchplays or whatever... "Ace Coupons"--What is THAT???

Your first card is an Ace. You put down the coupon and the dealer skips you on the first deal. it is a nice coupon. Anthony Curtis made his bones collecting and using hundreds of them at the old lady luck when he first hit Vegas. The coupons were on something that most players discarded without using, and he'd go dumpster diving for them. They aren't so common anymore in Vegas.

 

[stophon]

The idea is that a Pit Critter's vigilance for Card Counters would have him imagine that saving the coupons for a "high" count
is the thing that a Card Counter would do, because he is unable to compute the miniscule extra value of stalling on the coupon.

Seeing you bet it off the top deflects heat ... at a bargain price of course.

That could cost $6+ easy, I guess you decide if its worth the cover.

 

[Cardcounter]

Ace coupons are often restricted to the first hand of the deck. Big deal bet them anyway and always bet the maximum allowed that they allow you to bet. They usually restrict the maximum you can bet to well under the table maximum when you have these coupons. If you are going to make a bet for the dealer do it on this hand especially if you can still bet the maximum on this hand. If you can bet a $100 on the hand and $5 for the dealer do it. You will probably win money and make the dealer happy. I have the value of the coupon at $42 if you bet a $100. That is a hell of a lot better than the advantage of card counting where you might have a 1-2% advantage on a hand. Have money to split because splits will happen when you have the ace coupon and happen more than normal. I figure you will lose the coupon weather you win lose or draw. If you can convince the dealer to let you keep the coupon on a draw it adds more value.

P.S. If you don't have the balls to risk at least an entire paycheck with a first card is an ace coupon blackjack is not for you!