Bet Spread for $400 bankroll
- Thread starter Dschddny
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I would say a max bet of $5 is about right for this. You can spread $1-$5 at the Western or Golden Spike downtown.
As for your code, delete every other letter:
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c a r d c o u n t e r s a r e s m a r t e r t h a n p l o p p i e s.
-Mayor
As for your code, delete every other letter:
caabrcddceofugnhtiejrkslamrneospmqarrstteurvtwhxaynzpalbocpdpeifegsh
c a r d c o u n t e r s a r e s m a r t e r t h a n p l o p p i e s.
-Mayor
Yes, you are taking a big chance with a $400 bankroll and minimum $5 bets. Conventional wisdom is that you need a 1:8 to 1:12 spread to beat the shoes of AC. Maybe you can lessen the spread a little by aggressive wonging but that will be almost impossible since there are so few $5 tables in AC. Once you leavr that table, there will be 10 people to take your place. If you just sit iut the negative counts, I will take even money that you will be shot or stabbed. Here's my advice: bet $5 to $40 with the count, sit out/take breaks in negative counts if you can. Oh yeah, and pray a lot because you are playing to a very high risk of ruin. What's the difference between praying in church and praying in a casino? You mean it in a casino. You gotta start somewhere, asuming you know basic strategy and your count down cold. It would be a little better if you could start with a $1000.
Count Luckula
Active Member
>You are not taking a chance at all -- if you always overbet your bankroll (as >determine by the Kelly criterion) by more than 2x, then you are 100% certain >to go broke.
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>There is no chance at all here...
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>Here's a code for you:
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>--Mayor
That's funny. When I first started reading your code, I thought it was a bit mean. You should have just left the first half.
If I recall correctly Dschddny said that he was a student in an earlier post. I don't see anything wrong w/ playing a higher ROR, if you are starting small and adding to your bankroll through other means. AC is a tough place to play though, and you need to use a pretty large spread to make it even close to worth your time. I go once in a while and spread at least 5-100. It's more worth it for me to fly somewhere else to play a better game. With $400 you can get wiped out very quickly spreading your bet. With that roll, the most you should do in AC is hang out with your friends and practice counting (or back-counting). I would suggest you wong, but you shouldn't even be betting enough to make it worth your while. Build the bankroll. If you've been studying and practicing, by the time that's ready, you will be too.
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>There is no chance at all here...
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>Here's a code for you:
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>hfubkpcboecvjmezpvscbolspmm
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>--Mayor
That's funny. When I first started reading your code, I thought it was a bit mean. You should have just left the first half.
If I recall correctly Dschddny said that he was a student in an earlier post. I don't see anything wrong w/ playing a higher ROR, if you are starting small and adding to your bankroll through other means. AC is a tough place to play though, and you need to use a pretty large spread to make it even close to worth your time. I go once in a while and spread at least 5-100. It's more worth it for me to fly somewhere else to play a better game. With $400 you can get wiped out very quickly spreading your bet. With that roll, the most you should do in AC is hang out with your friends and practice counting (or back-counting). I would suggest you wong, but you shouldn't even be betting enough to make it worth your while. Build the bankroll. If you've been studying and practicing, by the time that's ready, you will be too.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
"You are not taking a chance at all -- if you always overbet your bankroll (as determine by the Kelly criterion) by more than 2x, then you are 100% certain to go broke.
There is no chance at all here..."
On the contrary, nothing is 100% certain in the game. People have started out underfunded and with good breaks and disciplined play had a lot of success, and others have started out with a proper bankroll and seen ruin. This is a positive expectation game for us and with any luck at all our bankroll will increase to proper Kelly for whatever stake we are comfortable playing, just as easily as a negative expectation player's bankroll evaporates before he walks away from the table. I started out playing $15 tables with $500 in my pocket this October and now I'm playing $25 with $3000 (High-Low, 6D, LSR, S17, DAS). Lucky, yes. But let's say I lose my $500 bankroll, I just have to wait until Friday to get another one. So you could say that as long as you have a job with steady disposable income you have an unlimited bankroll, and if you don't have such a job you might want to consider steering clear of all gaming.
Every one of us here has seen a bad player turn $500 into $3000 in a couple of shoes, no reason a good player can't do it taking months.
There is no chance at all here..."
On the contrary, nothing is 100% certain in the game. People have started out underfunded and with good breaks and disciplined play had a lot of success, and others have started out with a proper bankroll and seen ruin. This is a positive expectation game for us and with any luck at all our bankroll will increase to proper Kelly for whatever stake we are comfortable playing, just as easily as a negative expectation player's bankroll evaporates before he walks away from the table. I started out playing $15 tables with $500 in my pocket this October and now I'm playing $25 with $3000 (High-Low, 6D, LSR, S17, DAS). Lucky, yes. But let's say I lose my $500 bankroll, I just have to wait until Friday to get another one. So you could say that as long as you have a job with steady disposable income you have an unlimited bankroll, and if you don't have such a job you might want to consider steering clear of all gaming.
Every one of us here has seen a bad player turn $500 into $3000 in a couple of shoes, no reason a good player can't do it taking months.
<<If you just sit iut the negative counts, I will take even money that you will be shot or stabbed. >>
I am planning to wong in when the count goes positive, sit out (as much as possible) when the count is slightly negative, and wong out when the count is very negative. Does sitting out hands really piss people off? Any suggestions on how to deal with ploppy heat?
I am planning to wong in when the count goes positive, sit out (as much as possible) when the count is slightly negative, and wong out when the count is very negative. Does sitting out hands really piss people off? Any suggestions on how to deal with ploppy heat?
Yes, sitting out hands really pisses people off (changes the flow of the cards) and people in AC are not shy about voicing their displeasure. Some AP's say f*ck the other players but it does make it very unpleasant to play. That's why it's best to sit out after a dealer BJ or a seven-card dealer 21 (the real reason, of course, is because the count is now negative). When people get pissed off when I change between 1 and 2 hands, I can deal with it because I've developed a thick skin after many years of play. As a newbie, you may feel the displeasure of others more than a veteran.
However, YOUR MAIN PROBLEM here is the real lack of $5 tables in AC. With 10 people looking to take your spot when you sit out a hand or hands, you are going to have a hard time keeping your seat. Likewise, opportunities to wong in are going to be very few and far between.
However, YOUR MAIN PROBLEM here is the real lack of $5 tables in AC. With 10 people looking to take your spot when you sit out a hand or hands, you are going to have a hard time keeping your seat. Likewise, opportunities to wong in are going to be very few and far between.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
I do a lot of sitting out bad counts too. If the hands have been bad I'll say something like "I'm going to sit one out, try to change our luck here" and the players will act like you are doing them a favor when in reality you are screwing them.
You can pretend you are getting a call on your vibrating phone, that can be a fun one. If the count is low enough that there is little chance of it coming back that shoe, you can go to the bathroom. I drink and pretend to be drunk when I play, so I have even run to the bathroom pretending I had to vomit. Funny, nobody complained about me running away from the table when I did that. They did stop serving me with booze though.
The bathroom is your friend at the casino, as it's one place where you can be sure there is no camera. (That has been determined to be illegal.) That's why an upscale casino is one of the last places on earth with restroom attendants, that guy is providing a security function. But you can go in a stall and transfer chips and money from pocket to pocket, study your playbook, pass notes with an accomplice, etc.
You can pretend you are getting a call on your vibrating phone, that can be a fun one. If the count is low enough that there is little chance of it coming back that shoe, you can go to the bathroom. I drink and pretend to be drunk when I play, so I have even run to the bathroom pretending I had to vomit. Funny, nobody complained about me running away from the table when I did that. They did stop serving me with booze though.
The bathroom is your friend at the casino, as it's one place where you can be sure there is no camera. (That has been determined to be illegal.) That's why an upscale casino is one of the last places on earth with restroom attendants, that guy is providing a security function. But you can go in a stall and transfer chips and money from pocket to pocket, study your playbook, pass notes with an accomplice, etc.