bet spreads in 6dk game

[ed_vantage]

Using green chips, what kind of bet spread can be gotten down without to much heat. Keep in mind I do intend to use betting and playing cover to throw the critters off. Ian Andersen says that he can get 1-18 down (1-2X9). Is this realistic?
ed

 

[zengrifter]

6D green spread...

... is easily 1-2x12u (1-24). If you are NOT wonging in at +counts, then wong out at TC-1or-2. If you do wong in at +count, 1-2x4u (1-8) is more than sufficient. I recommend you use a combination of both tacticts. zg

 

[Automatic Monkey]

6D spread

I use a 1:2X6 on a $25 game and a 1:2X10 on a $10 game when I can find one. Never gotten any heat on account of it and there is one store where they know for a fact I'm a counter but they tolerate this kind of action. In shoe it can take a long time to get a good count, but that can also work to your advantage because it takes proportionally long to evaluate your play.

 

[john]

I've gotten away with

1-30 spread on double deck and 1-60 spread on 6 deck. Do what you think you can. I don't use any camoflage right now because I think you might as well not play at all if you are going to just hand over the money to the casino. If you play like a counter 99 % of the time then make one dumb move, I think the casino is going to think, "oh he made a dumb move but he's still a counter.". I don't waste time with it. Where I concentrate my time is getting in there, making the cash as quick as possible, and getting the hell out of there. That's me, though. That's my advice.

 

[ZOD]

Depends on the place

Depends on the place. My weakest spread is 1-12 on 6D and I've occassionally gotten glances for that. On the other hand, one casino that I frequent regularly tolerates 1-2X20. With a spread like that, even crummy games start scoring a lot better.

Best,

ZOD

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Cover & camo

I don't know, I still lay a lot of cover even at my level. Mostly 9/6 VP, which with the comps is still a positive EV game. One of these days when the roulette wheels are down to $5 I'm going to spend an hour or so playing a progression on the outside. See I have a very limited number of places I can play, so wearing out my welcome even in one is disasterous to my long-term career as a counter.

 

[Rob McGarvey]

Also

depends on your bankroll. Your spread should also represent the edge x BR x 1 for full kelly, edge x BR x 1/2 for half kelly, etc, which effects your RoR. Same with tracking A's or 7's: edge x accuarcy x BR x 1/2 for half kelly, but normally this is a static bet. It can also varry if your accuracy level fluctuates with different shuffles, etc, but with the edge you have this may not make a diff for you.

tangent, I know

 

[ed_vantage]

my bankroll

I haven't started out yet but when I do I intend on a bankroll of 200 max bets (which for me is going to be around $200). I figure this will be enough.
ed

 

[john]

yeah, more than enough

40,000 dollars (200 x 200) will be more than enough. My bankroll is 25,000 and I spread 25 - 300.