Beware counterfeit Foxwoods chips

This week a representative of Mohegan Sun told me that they are no longer accepting foreign cheque from Foxwoods because Foxwoods is having a counterfeiting problem.

Just one more thing to worry about at the table- being paid in counterfeit cheque. Wouldn't that be just like an Indian store- to pay you in counterfeit on one hand, then when you try to play the bad chip on the next hand they confiscate the thing and call security.
 

gehrig

Well-Known Member
how about this ?...

*sometime ago* i was cashing in at the cage at the 4 queens. in front of me was an elderly gent with a booby bucket of dollar tokens to be digested. the cashier brought back 3 obvious fakes. these had a poor impression of sam's town on one side and were blank on the other. i immediately offered to buy them from the fellow at face value. the fellow stated that these had been paid out of their machine. no matter, neither would she redeem them, nor would she permit me to buy them. as with currency being exchanged at a bank, she simply confiscated them.
 
The part that worries me...

... is not the dollar coins. Let's say they color me out with a queer purple, I take it to the cage and they confiscate it, there isn't too much I can do to prove that it was the same cheque they gave me at the table. And casinos being the unethical establishments they are, what do you think the chances are that cheque is going to end up back in a tray ready to be handed to the next sucker?
 

gehrig

Well-Known Member
the checque will be turned over to...

the gaming control board. when there is an incident where a guest is suspected of cheating and is detained, besides metro, gaming is called in. as i've noticed in other jurisdictions, oftimes the state is more zealous in pursuit of their few percent, than the federal gubbmit.

were i in surveillance, i'd immediately suspect you as having switched the bad checque into play. like as not at least one of the three (or more) cameras at the cage would capture your image, to be safe. who should be the prime suspect other than the fellow attempting to pass the queer checque ?
 

Illusion

Member
sounds worse then it is

If it was as bad as you make it sound to be they would take all chips off the tables and replace them with there secondary chips. Every casino has a set of secondary chips for the case of counterfeiting. They would then account for how many of each color/value are missing compared to what they had when the originally got them from the manufacture. They would give the public a time frame to cash in any old chips and have there people check every chip coming in very carefully. Chips have security features in them just like money does, weight of the chip color, some even have "tokens" inside them, black light the chips from your favorite casino you'll see some have security features you can't see. They would then destroy the primary chips and the secondary chips would then become the primary chips and order in chips for a new set of secondary chips.

As for the coloring up at the table and getting a queer purple and then getting busted at the cage. Simply do what the casino personal do. They find money or chips on the floor they hold it up so the camera's can see it. So color up, place the chips in your palm face up and walk to the cage and cash out. Then if you get a bad chip from the table tell them what table you were at what way you walked to the cage and tell them to do a review in surveillance because you're not taking a $500.00 loss because they gave you a counterfeit chip at the table.
 

Radar

Active Member
Has this actually Happened to Anyone?

I've never heard of it. I would suspect sleazy things at a small, maybe Indian casino, but not at any larger size establishments. Seems to me that it wouldn't be worth the repercussions if they were caught.

Has anyone gotten any bogus checques at a table where the cage refused to accept?
 
Apparently, yes

That's why the casino announced they are not accepting any more foreign chip. Maybe the person who got caught with it was the counterfeiter, I don't know. But if I was going to try to pass a queer cheque I'd do it at a BJ table which has a single dealer, maybe inexperienced, not the cage. That would mean someone else would eventually get it and take it to the cage.

These CT establishments are very large and busy but they are also Indian which means ordinary laws don't apply. I wouldn't distrust any Las Vegas casino to do that but an Indian store, you never can tell what they'll do.
 

gehrig

Well-Known Member
not on the 21 table...

better on a busy dice game in a joint which has 86'd all the boxmen.
 
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