Blackbelt in Blackjack - new edition being printed

[J1]

I also posted this on bj21.com and advantageplayer.com.

I was checking for Blackbelt in Blackjack on www.amazon.com on 03/20/04 and found a posting for a new edition of "Blackbelt in Blackjack: Playing Blackjack as a Martial Art". According to the posting, this edition, from Cardoza Publishing, will have a publishing date of November 1, 2004.

The amazon.com posting included the following data -

"List Price: $14.95
Availability: This item has not yet been released. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.
Edition: Paperback

Paperback: 256 pages
Publisher: Cardoza; (November 1, 2004)
ISBN: 1580421431"

The printing on an enlarged view of the cover was fuzzy, but I was able to read the following, in addition to the title:

"Featuring

Shuffle Tracking
Team Play
[followed by 4 lines I could not decypher]
[followed by]
and so much more...

Arnold Snyder
Author of Blackjack Wisdom and The Blackjack Formula"

I am calling Cardoza Publishing Monday morning, 03/22/04, for more details and will update this thread when I have that information. Since amazon.com is taking pre-orders, I think Cardoza Publishing will use those figures to help set the number of copies in their first print run.

If you cannot wait until November for a $14.95 copy, there are four copies currently listed for sale on amazon.com -

1 - "like new" for $63.77 (easily, the best buy of the four)
1 - "acceptable" for $68.82
1 - "new never used" for $176.03
1 - "new still in shrink wrap" for $194.99

 

[Sonny]

Re: Blackbelt in Blackjack - new edition being printed *LINK* *PIC*

Yeah, what's up with THIS?

-Sonny-

 

[J1]

Re: Blackbelt in Blackjack - new edition being printed - UPDATE *LINK*

I talked with a representative of Cardoza Publishing in New York at 10:20 AM EST on Monday, 03/22/04. The representative confirmed Cardoza Publishing will be releasing a new edition of Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder with release of the edition scheduled for November 2004. The representative did not have details of changes included in the new edition.

The 1998 edition of Blackbelt in Blackjack is listed as 186 pages with the last, index-page numbered 185, but the Cardoza Publishing edition is listed at 256 pages. I do not think Cardoza Publishing would expand the 186 pages into 256 pages, so the text/tables constituting the additional 70 pages should be new to the work. Hopefully, Arnold Snyder or Cardoza will provide pre-release data on the expansions/revisions.

For those who wish to check on Cardoza Publishing, I included a link to their web-site below. The company has been around since the 1980's publishing mainly gaming-related books. Some of the poker writers they publish/republish for are Doyle Brunson and Mike Caro, so I do not think they are a fly-by-night operation.

 

[J1]

Re: Blackbelt in Blackjack - new edition being printed - UPDATE *LINK*

I guess the old adage "No good deed goes unpunished" is true. As I previously posted, the new edition of Blackbelt in Blackjack (BiB) is not scheduled for release until November-2004, so please do Cardoza Publishing (CP) a favor - do not waste their time by trying to call and order a copy from them now. CP has been swamped with calls today by people trying to order the book today. If you want to pre-order, go to your favorite book-dealer and pre-order there - CP is not taking orders from individuals at this time.

I talked with two representatives of CP in New York on Monday, 03/22/04. While the representatives confirmed Cardoza Publishing will be releasing a new edition of Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder with release of the edition scheduled for November 2004, they did not have details of changes, if any, included in the new edition, but one did say the manuscript has not been received for editing by CP, yet.

The 1998 edition of BiB is listed as 186 pages with the last, index-page numbered 185, but the CP edition is listed at 256 pages. I do not think CP would expand the 186 pages into 256 pages, but ViKtor Nacht of www.advantageplayer.com stated CP usually uses large fonts and unique page-sizes in their books, so, right now it is speculation if new text/tables are being added to the original 1998 text/tables. Hopefully, CP or AS will provide a press-release clarifying these points (Hint, hint - AS/CP).

The text for the 1998 BiB could easily have been loaded to CP's editing DB, the page-sizes and fonts revised, multiple generations be created and edited, and an initial production run and distribution be executed before the end of April, in time for marketing for the summer gaming peak (the decision for CP to publish a new edition was not just made, since the new edition is already posted on www.amazon.com with a different cover design than the 1998-edition).

I theorized one of two reasons for the release being delayed until November-2004 -

1. To pass the end-date of a pre-existing, publishing-rights contract for the book

2. To allow generation and editing of additional text/tables for the new edition.

I hope my second theory is correct.

For those who wish to check on CP, I included a link to their web-site below. The company has been around since the 1980's publishing mainly gaming-related books. Some of the poker writers they publish/republish for are Doyle Brunson and Mike Caro, so I do not think they are a fly-by-night operation.

 

[Lars]

Re: Blackbelt in Blackjack - new edition being printed - UPDATE

LoL .. im surprised you and the others have never heard of Cardoza Publishing... i been buying some of their books for years (they send me there catalog once a year).. they are located here in brooklyn , N.Y. (im on long island) ... they been around for long long time and have a very good reputation... they either publish or resell books by many notable gambling authors... I would assume the Mayor would know Avery Cardoza (owner and publisher of the company).. anyways you should check out there other products (other books, software etc.)... there all good...

 

[Lars]

Re: Blackbelt in Blackjack - new edition being printed - UPDATE

oops forgot to mention.. those books you mentioned before being sold of Blackbelt in Blackjack on amazon.com that are currently at between $60-$190 arent the new edition.. there the old edition... amazon.com sells used out of print books by independent booksellers.. so if i were everyone i would just wait for the new edition but if you want the old edition i tend to see it once in awhile on ebay for alot less then the used ones are being sold on amazon.com .. prices usually end at around $25 to $30 on Ebay...

 

[Seeker]

Second edition available cheap

Cheap, as in free.

Instead of paying a bundle for a copy of Blackbelt, which is out of print, you can get most of it online. The introductory sections are at (Dead link: http://www.bjfonline.com/play.cfm) under the rubric of "How to Play Casino Blackjack." Much of the material on advantage play, including the Red 7 counting system, is at (Dead link: http://www.bjfonline.com/beat.cfm) under the rubric of "How to Beat Casino Blackjack."

I recommend this online resource only to tide people over until November. Assuming that the third edition contains some new material, it should certainly be in any serious player's library.