Blackjack Language

[Firestorm833]

Hello blackjackinfo,

I've been looking at the forums for sometime now and decided to make an account

I've picked up a few terms and like to separate them into what I think are good and bad:

Good :

SD - Single Deck
DD - Double Deck
DAS - Double After Splitting
H17 - Hard Seventeen?
LS - Late Surrender
BS - Basic Strategy
Comps - Casino Rewards?
Pen - Deck Penetration (good if its high otherwise bad if its low)

Bad

6D - Six Decks
8D - Eight Decks
ASM - Automatic Shuffling Machine
CSM - Card Shuffling Machine
FD - Face Down?
Heat/Sweat - Dealers, Pit Crews, Casino Staff giving you trouble

Unsure/Unknown:

S17 - Not sure where Soft Seventeen goes
EV - Extraterrestrial Visitors just kidding, I really don't know
AC - Average counter
NS - No Splitting?

Names:

AP - Advantage Player
BR - Bank Roll
CC - Card Counter
Ploppy - Players not using Basic Strategy or Card Counting techniques
PB - Pit Boss
PC - Pit Crew
Nickels/Red Chipper - $5 Chips
Quarters/Green Chipper - $25 Chips
Black Chipper - $100 Chips

I know I'm missing a few more but feel free to add/fill in the list, and answer the unsure/unknown terms. Thank you!

 

[Zero]

I think there's a sticky with this info.

Good :

H17 - Hard Seventeen?

The dealer hits a soft 17, this should be moved to "Bad".

Bad

CSM - Card Shuffling Machine

CSM = Continuous Shuffling Machine

Unsure/Unknown:

S17 - Not sure where Soft Seventeen goes
EV - Extraterrestrial Visitors just kidding, I really don't know
AC - Average counter
NS - No Splitting?

S17 = The dealer stands on soft 17. You can put this under "Good".
EV = Expected Value
AC = Atlantic City, although it could refer to Anthony Curtis
NS = No Surrender

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[aslan]

Hello blackjackinfo,

I've been looking at the forums for sometime now and decided to make an account

I've picked up a few terms and like to separate them into what I think are good and bad:

Good :

SD - Single Deck
DD - Double Deck
DAS - Double After Splitting
H17 - Hard Seventeen?
LS - Late Surrender
BS - Basic Strategy
Comps - Casino Rewards?
Pen - Deck Penetration (good if its high otherwise bad if its low)

Bad

6D - Six Decks
8D - Eight Decks
ASM - Automatic Shuffling Machine
CSM - Card Shuffling Machine
FD - Face Down?
Heat/Sweat - Dealers, Pit Crews, Casino Staff giving you trouble

Unsure/Unknown:

S17 - Not sure where Soft Seventeen goes
EV - Extraterrestrial Visitors just kidding, I really don't know
AC - Average counter
NS - No Splitting?

Names:

AP - Advantage Player
BR - Bank Roll
CC - Card Counter
Ploppy - Players not using Basic Strategy or Card Counting techniques
PB - Pit Boss
PC - Pit Crew
Nickels/Red Chipper - $5 Chips
Quarters/Green Chipper - $25 Chips
Black Chipper - $100 Chips

I know I'm missing a few more but feel free to add/fill in the list, and answer the unsure/unknown terms. Thank you!

Zero answered most of them.

In H17 the H stands for Hit (on soft 17).
In S17 the S stands for Stand (on soft 17).
6D and 8D are not "bad." It depends on the rules and pen, among other considerations.
ASMs are not bad unless you're shuffle tracking (and that has been disputed by some). Actually, they tend to speed up the game so that means greater winnings per hour.
Yes, FD is face down.

 

[mathman]

Zero answered most of them.

In H17 the H stands for Hit (on soft 17).
In S17 the S stands for Stand (on soft 17).
6D and 8D are not "bad." It depends on the rules and pen, among other considerations.
ASMs are not bad unless you're shuffle tracking (and that has been disputed by some). Actually, they tend to speed up the game so that means greater winnings per hour.
Yes, FD is face down.

Hmmm. I've always viewed that as soft 17 and hard 17. In other words the dealer hits to soft 17 or the dealer hits to hard 17....JtMM
.

 

[aslan]

Hmmm. I've always viewed that as soft 17 and hard 17. In other words the dealer hits to soft 17 or the dealer hits to hard 17....JtMM
.

You got half of it right. H17 means the dealer hits a soft 17. S17 means the dealer stands on soft 17. Neither has anything to do with hard 17. The rules of all blackjack games I've ever played require the dealer to stand on hard 17, whether it's an S17 or an H17 game.

 

[Canceler]

You got half of it right. H17 means the dealer hits a soft 17. S17 means the dealer stands on soft 17. Neither has anything to do with hard 17. The rules of all blackjack games I've ever played require the dealer to stand on hard 17, whether it's an S17 or an H17 game.

Although 99% of us think of it the way you do, mathman's way of looking at it is not incorrect, if you think about it.

 

[aslan]

Although 99% of us think of it the way you do, mathman's way of looking at it is not incorrect, if you think about it.

In other words the dealer hits to soft 17 or the dealer hits to hard 17....JtMM

The dealer never hits to hard 17.

 

[Canceler]

I would've said they ALL do...

The dealer never hits to hard 17.

One of us is having a semantic difficulty here, and it just could be me.

 

[aslan]

One of us is having a semantic difficulty here, and it just could be me.

Right. If you interpret "to" to mean "until" there is only one instance the dealer can hit to [until] hard 17, and that is when he catches a ten or combination of cards equaling a ten. It omits the cases of obtaining a hard 18, 19, 20, 21 or busted hand.

 

[mathman]

oops

Sorry guys. I didn't explain that correctly. oops. Play on words.lol..Thank god I have the good fortune of not remembering how it reads on the table..JtMM
.

 

[Zero]

Thank god I have the good fortune of not remembering how it reads on the table..

H17 will say "Dealer must draw to 16 and soft 17 and stand on hard 17's and all 18's."

S17 will simply say "Dealer must draw to 16 and stand on all 17's."

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[Billy C1]

The dealer never hits to hard 17.

I've seen it happen several times!

BillyC1

 

[aslan]

I've seen it happen several times!

BillyC1

I've seen a dealer pay off on a soft 22, because some ploppy told him he busted!

 

[Firestorm833]

Thanks for all the information guys