Borgata double-deck dealt to the last card

ArcticInferno

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I was at Borgata a few weeks ago and I saw something truly amazing.
They were in the process opening up more $25 tables and I was asked to wait.
The dealer was given fresh six boxes of cards.
The dealer took the cards out of the boxes and placed the decks in the shoe in a
criss-cross fashion so that alternating decks were either up or side ways.
She took the first two decks and mixed them up and shuffled them and then
placed the two decks in the discard tray.
What I saw next was mind-blowing. She took the second two decks (decks 3 & 4)
and mixed them up and shuffled them and then placed them on top of first two
decks in the discard tray. What???!!! Am I dreaming?
The dealer then took the last two decks (decks 5 & 6) and mixed them up and
shuffled them and then placed them on top of the four decks already in the discard tray.
The dealer finally took the six decks out of the discard tray and placed them in the shoe.
If you were following carefully, you'd realize that this was not a six-deck shoe.
I was about to play three consecutive double-deck games, and the first two games
were going to be dealt down to the very last card. Oh my God!!! My heart was
pounding and my hands were shaking.
I was having some trouble gauging where the first two decks ended and the second
two decks started. I'm so used to casually estimating the discard tray that I wasn't
prepared for such precision. Near the end of the second two decks, I put out two
$250 bets (total $500) and lots of high cards came out; I took insurance and the
dealer had a blackjack. I was extremely disappointed.
Overall, I won $1800 in that shoe (or those three shoes), mainly because of the
frequent fluctuations in the count (not because of any sky-high counts).
I may have varied my bets too frequently because the pit boss was looking at me funny.
I left Borgata without cashing out. I returned on the following shift to cash out.
 

peaegg

Well-Known Member
Mistake by the dealer

Obviously the dealer made a mistake handling the new decks. They always do a new round of shuffle routine after what you described. Good for you to catch this unusual opportunity.
 

Thunder

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highly unusual. Usually they have the pitboss watching them during this to make sure this kind of stuff doesn't happen!
 

ArcticInferno

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Thunder, I have nothing to gain by posting a fake story here. The event truly did happen.
Brock Winsor, the shoe was not cut.
The dealer took the six decks from the discard tray and placed it in the shoe without letting me cut it.
As Peaegg said, the dealer probably made a mistake. I was lucky to witness it.
 

kewljason

Well-Known Member
ArcticInferno said:
Thunder, I have nothing to gain by posting a fake story here. The event truly did happen.
Brock Winsor, the shoe was not cut.
The dealer took the six decks from the discard tray and placed it in the shoe without letting me cut it.
As Peaegg said, the dealer probably made a mistake. I was lucky to witness it.
Yes mistakes do happen, BUT there are safeguards built in to gaurd against a mistake of this magnitude. In this case, in addition to the dealer inspecting each card, a floorperson is assigned each table and also required to inspect each card along with supervising the entire procedure and sign off on it, taking full responsibility. Not doing so, as you discribe violates New Jersey state gaming regulation 19:46-1.18(e)1 for procedure of opening the game and could result in a hefty fine for the casino. It is highly unlikely that a top run gaming destination like borgata would risk this, but never the less an entertaining story, perhaps better suited for the 'blackjack stories section'. :laugh:
 
Arctic

kewljason said:
Yes mistakes do happen, BUT there are safeguards built in to gaurd against a mistake of this magnitude. In this case, in addition to the dealer inspecting each card, a floorperson is assigned each table and also required to inspect each card along with supervising the entire procedure and sign off on it, taking full responsibility. Not doing so, as you discribe violates New Jersey state gaming regulation 19:46-1.18(e)1 for procedure of opening the game and could result in a hefty fine for the casino. It is highly unlikely that a top run gaming destination like borgata would risk this, but never the less an entertaining story, perhaps better suited for the 'blackjack stories section'. :laugh:
As we all now know, because there is a regulation 19:46-1.18(E)1 that this event could never have happened,,,,never,,,never:laugh:

And of course there is also a Federal law that inflicts a $10,000 penalty each time a U.S. company hires an undocumented, (illegal immigrant) worker,,,,,and we know from that experience just how well U.S. companies follow the law, at all times,,never wanting to risk these fines, just CAN'T happen.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::rolleyes::rolleyes:

CP
 

kewljason

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creeping panther said:
As we all now know, because there is a regulation 19:46-1.18(E)1 that this event could never have happened,,,,never,,,never:laugh:


CP
I didn't say it could never, never happen. :confused: I said unlikely. As usual you chose to change the story to your liking.
 
Arctic

ArcticInferno said:
Thunder, I have nothing to gain by posting a fake story here. The event truly did happen.
Brock Winsor, the shoe was not cut.
The dealer took the six decks from the discard tray and placed it in the shoe without letting me cut it.
As Peaegg said, the dealer probably made a mistake. I was lucky to witness it.
I believe you are telling the truth about this.

I would never insinuate that you are a liar.

CP
 

bjcount

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Automatic Monkey said:
Dealers blow the shuffle all the time. It happens with new dealers and new shuffles.
It's a guarantee it will never happen again after this thread.

One note, if they started using yesterdays cards like one store I know when they open a pit, the cards are already shuffled from the previous day's play. So untold to the innocent observer, you think your playing with unwashed cards but instead they're as dirty as the day is long.

BJC
 

Sucker

Well-Known Member
bjcount said:
It's a guarantee it will never happen again after this thread.

One note, if they started using yesterdays cards like one store I know when they open a pit, the cards are already shuffled from the previous day's play. So untold to the innocent observer, you think your playing with unwashed cards but instead they're as dirty as the day is long.

BJC
It has happened before and it will happen again. Mistakes happen. I once actually saw a dealer in the Las Vegas Club pull the cards out of the discard tray and forget to shuffle! Too bad I wasn't prepared for THAT!

It's a guarantee that the Borgata, or ANY place in A.C. will never use YESTERDAYS'
cards. That's something that would DEFINITELY guarantee them a fine and/or much WORSE.
 

Ferretnparrot

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It is a mistake, that is part of the procedure to shuffle up fresh decks, but it is supposed to be followed by at least one han d riffle shuffle afterward, most casinos will teach for the dealers to riffle again after that, or use an additional wash.
 
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