Bring on the Heat

Dschddny

Well-Known Member
When playing in Atlantic City, at what betting level would you say that heat would start, if your constantly wonging in and out of the game (but never leaving the table)?

I was told that if my bet spread is $5-$25 I don't have to worry at all, but what bets should make me aware?
 

wong out

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Depends on the casino and condiitons. For the most part you should be able to play with impunity if your top bet is less than 100. The big places (caesar's, borgata) take high action a little better. Best advice is wong in/out and move around.

good luck

wong out
 

theshuffleking

New Member
Not the way to do it!

1.5 years ago I went to Atlantic City for the first and last time. I used to be an active card counter, but I am more into sports betting these days. I was on a holiday, so I had no intention of playing serious. I wanted to find out how soon one can be in trouble not trying to avoid any heat. Instead of staying out of the high stakes area I went straight into it. In the Taj Mahal I saw that the maximum was no more than $2500 a hand, so before I bought one chip, I started complaining that that maximum was too low, because sometimes I feel really strong on a hand and then I want to bet more, so I asked them, if they could higher the maximum. They said:"No". I then grabbed 50 x $100 out of my jacket. About three or four pit bosses came to the table in no-time. I then started wagering $100 only. Remember I was on a holiday, so I was more after the comps than trying to make serious money playing BJ. I was winning (without even counting) and decided to double up and ask for my hotel room, dinner, etc. They said:"We are sorry, but all rooms are full". I stopped straight away and did the same kind of thing in a few more hotels. I only got a room in the Tropicana that way. I did not have any intention of playing more than necessary, but it was bad weather and there is nothing else to do in that city than gambling, so I then decided to go back to the Taj Mahal and play slightly more serious. I was betting on a $100-2x$500 spread. I made $10000 in no time. Just pure luck. The next day I was told that my maximum was limited to $100. "Management decision", etc. Unbelievable! I could not believe my ears! Anyhow I went back to the hotel I was staying. There too I won $10000 in no time. I asked them if I could be offered a free meal in their Chinese restaurant. They made a reservation for me. While I was eating two guys came and sat down next to me. I asked them:"What is up?". I thought they were going to offer me the Presidential suite, but instead they said:"We do not like your playing style!". I said:"Oh, what is wrong with it?". They said:"Well, we are not going to pay for your dinner. You will have to pay it yourself!". I said:"Oh no problem. Please have a drink on me!". They rejected. Then 5 minutes later a heavy guy came in and he smashed his fist on the table saying:"YOU GOT TO PAY EITHER CASH OR WITH CREDIT CARD, BUT WE WILL NOT PAY YOUR MEAL". I asked this guy to calm down and sit down. Remember I was on a holiday and my income these days is not from Blackjack anymore. He did not want to sit down, but heated up even more and said that they were also not going to pay for my hotel room. I asked him how much it was going to cost me. About US$175 a night.

Anyhow the next day when I checked out and expected to get a huge hotel room bill, the guy at the cashier told me to pay $10 for telephone calls. I was shocked. The guy said:"Where you not aware of the fact that you had to pay $1 for each local call?". Before I could say anything the gentleman went on:"Well let me take it of your bill". I then did not get any bill. I looked even more stunned and asked:"So I do not have to pay anything?". He said:"No, I hope you enjoyed your time here!"
 

Dschddny

Well-Known Member
If the casino does ask you to leave, what is the best way to respond?

A) "OK"
B) "Thank you for your money"
C) "Why? I'm not even winning!"
D) "But I'm not doing anything!"
E) No comment
 

wong out

Well-Known Member
Just boogey quietly and unobtrusively. Dont bother cashing your chips and dont look up at the camera (they probably have some nice photos already but you never know). You dont have to say a word (or even acknowledge them for that matter). Hopefully you can come back on a later shift and play.

WRT to the AC backoffs - I think that most AC joints are doing ya a favor by giving you heat. Who wants to play their crap anyhow?? There are a few ways to make money in the City but its tough and requires abit of scouting. Anyhow AC heat consists of:

-Turning off the comps;
-Cutting pen to 50%;
-Limiting Max bet to 100 (Taj) or 50 (Sands);
-Limiting you to one hand.

If your max bet is less than 100 you should be ok in most AC places.

Play elsewhere!

wong out
 
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