Buying in...... How much?

[swamper]

I have read a few times that it brings more attention to buy in for......lets say.......$500 rather than $100. I know this is a newbie question but if I buy in for $100 playing red I will almost always have to buy in for 1 or 2 or 3 more hundred as max bets come and go in a shoe.

Is it wiser to keeping buying in rather than buying in for more?

 

[Midwestern]

keeping buying in makes it look like you're losing.... which is a great image for the casino to have of you.

usually, ill walk in with a session bankroll, and place half of it on the table when i sit down. if my chips are low or it the count looks juicy enough that ill actually need chips ill buy chips with the rest of it.

think about AP's with a big bankroll. it would look quite suspicious to buy in for 10k at a 25min table whereas buying in for 400 is quite ploppy/gambler looking. when you need the chips, buy them, says i

 

[blackjack avenger]

Invisible VS Visible

If you are playing unrated and want to be invisible, keep buy in's under $100, even multiple buys.

If playing rated you want your buy in's recorded, buy in for the minimum amount that the pit records, generally $100 to $500.

If your bets are big enough, well you gotta do what you gotta do.

 

[Midwestern]

so KJ how do you get enough chips on the table to make the shoes profitable? do you flat bet your 4 chips until you get to a specific +TC where you add more quantity of chips?

i see this alot with total ploppy but i figured any ap would wanna have at least 20 bets on the table when he buys in

 

[kewljason]

so KJ how do you get enough chips on the table to make the shoes profitable? do you flat bet your 4 chips until you get to a specific +TC where you add more quantity of chips?

i see this alot with total ploppy but i figured any ap would wanna have at least 20 bets on the table when he buys in

No I just play my normal ramp. If I need more chips, I buy more. Just looks like you are chasing. The only small sacrifice is that if I the count jumped immediately and I was at the point that I would normally wager 3 units and I only have 2, then I bet 2. If I win, I would wager 3 next hand, if lose I would buy in for more and wager 3 next hand.

 

[swamper]

No I just play my normal ramp. If I need more chips, I buy more. Just looks like you are chasing. The only small sacrifice is that if I the count jumped immediately and I was at the point that I would normally wager 3 units and I only have 2, then I bet 2. If I win, I would wager 3 next hand, if lose I would buy in for more and wager 3 next hand.

This sounds like a plan I can and will use. Thanks KJ. It does seem to appear like I am losing and steaming to get back the losses yet if I am winning and parlaying it appears a bit normal as well.

thanks

 

[Midwestern]

im going to start doing this too.
if i was visitng vegas and wanted to look like a BSD and get nightclub VIP service comped then id buy in big.

at my local casino i wanna look like one of the regulars hoping to double his friday paycheck so that im welcome back over and over.

 

[kewljason]

This sounds like a plan I can and will use. Thanks KJ. It does seem to appear like I am losing and steaming to get back the losses yet if I am winning and parlaying it appears a bit normal as well.

thanks

Yeah, it's a plan another member shared with me. Many players don't like it because you may have to repeatedly buy in, which is annoying and can slow the game down a bit, but the benefit is that the pit's first impression of you is that you have little money, aren't staying long and are no threat to them. First impressions are lasting impressions and it takes a lot to reverse them. Second impression is that you are steaming. You are long gone before they ever get to the point of considering that you are doing anything else.

 

[blackjack avenger]

Over Under

If you are trying to stay under the radar often that $100 buy in will be a blip; the dealer will call it out, where an $80 buy in won't be. The difference is $20.

 

[swamper]

Ahh yes, I see what you mean. I will soon have to test the waters with buying in for less instead. If I remember correctly I thought they called out all of my buy ins.

 

[kewljason]

If you are trying to stay under the radar often that $100 buy in will be a blip; the dealer will call it out, where an $80 buy in won't be. The difference is $20.

I actually went back and deleted the post where I stated my actual buy in, thinking I gave a little too much detail. Was going to replace it will buy in small repeatedly, but I guess it doesn't matter now it's out there. :laugh:

$80 works, problem is. it is not quite so neet as $100. $100 is 4 units. 80 is 3.2 units

 

[moo321]

If you WANT attention for comps' sake, buy in for a lot.

If you DON"T want attention, don't buy in for a lot.

 

[zengrifter]

Is it wiser to keeping buying in rather than buying in for more?

Yes, its better to keep buying in. zg

 

[blackjack avenger]

Such Promise

I actually went back and deleted the post where I stated my actual buy in, thinking I gave a little too much detail. Was going to replace it will buy in small repeatedly, but I guess it doesn't matter now it's out there. :laugh:

It's all over Kewl. Now they know there is an AP who buys in for $100.:grin: Maybe you can get a job at a coffee shop? I know of one that may be looking to hire!:grin:

$80 works, problem is. it is not quite so neet as $100. $100 is 4 units. 80 is 3.2 units

This sounds like AP talk to me. Actually you have 3 units and a $5 chip to throw on top of a bet, with disssssdain!

 

[ohbehave]

If you are trying to stay under the radar often that $100 buy in will be a blip; the dealer will call it out, where an $80 buy in won't be. The difference is $20.

Everywhere I've played they've logged every buyin no matter what size. Typical ploppy buyin I see is $100-$300 for $25 minimum and under. I try to do the same. Not same buyin every time either. One session might 100, next session might be 300. When I was more of a newbie player I'd buyin for 500 but it draws too much attention when you're betting nickels.

 

[blackjack avenger]

Different Casinos and Cultures

Everywhere I've played they've logged every buyin no matter what size. Typical ploppy buyin I see is $100-$300 for $25 minimum and under. I try to do the same. Not same buyin every time either. One session might 100, next session might be 300. When I was more of a newbie player I'd buyin for 500 but it draws too much attention when you're betting nickels.

If trying to stay under the radar try some $60 or $80 buy ins and see, you may be in a small place that could be sweaty if they call it out. Most big action casinos small buy ins are not called out.

 

[The Chaperone]

This is one of the biggest counter tells for me. If a guy buys in $400 and then bets 5-10 bucks, I'm almost certain he's counting or at least up to something. I think higher stakes players don't make this mistake (i.e. you don't see a counter at a $100 table buy in for 8k and then bet a hundred bucks lol).

 

[zengrifter]

I like to buy in for small amounts because more times than not I lose it and have to chase it with more and more. Combine that with a little ratholing and you have a winning tactic. zg

 

[Friendo]

Chip buy-ins

I like to cash out less at the cage, and keep a few hundred at home. Part of this is trying to look like a loser, but part is to avoid cash buy-ins for the sake of speed: sit down and produce a small quantity of chips without slowing the game or the dealer.

Is it better to avoid this, and pull out the cash instead?

If the initial small pile goes into the tray, I avoid pulling out more chips and buy in further with cash.

 

[moo321]

I like to cash out less at the cage, and keep a few hundred at home. Part of this is trying to look like a loser, but part is to avoid cash buy-ins for the sake of speed: sit down and produce a small quantity of chips without slowing the game or the dealer.

Is it better to avoid this, and pull out the cash instead?

If the initial small pile goes into the tray, I avoid pulling out more chips and buy in further with cash.

It can be a strategy to hide wins and losses from them, and to lower how much they pay attention to you. Check change $300 is usually not noticed much. A purple may get noticed.