Casino's Edge

MuRRaY

New Member
If the casino's edge is .66%, does that mean the chance of you actually winning a hand is .34%? This may be obvious but I figured I would clarify just in case. Thanks, -Murray
 

callipygian

Well-Known Member
MuRRaY said:
If the casino's edge is .66%, does that mean the chance of you actually winning a hand is .34%?
No, it means that if you bet $100, you can expect to get back $99.34 in the long run.

If your bet always pays 1:1 (for example, a craps pass or come bet), the house edge is the difference between the percent you lose and the percent you win. So the pass line, which carries a 1.4% house edge, wins about 49.3% of the time and loses about 50.7% of the time (50.7%-49.3% = 1.4%).

When your bets don't pay 1:1, the situation is more complicated. In blackjack, for example, you get paid 3:2 on blackjacks and sometimes you double down or split (and double your bet). The general formula you use to calculate EV (expected value) is:

EV = [(percent outcome #1)*(amount won on outcome #1) + (percent outcome #2)*(amount won on outcome #2) + ... (percent outcome #n)*(amount won on outcome #n)] / [(percent outcome #1)*(amount bet on outcome #1) + (percent outcome #2)*(amount bet on outcome #2) + ... (percent outcome #n)*(amount bet on outcome #n)]

or simply

EV is the amount you won divided by the amount you bet, corrected for the percent of the time you win and bet.

For blackjack, you have many outcomes: win a blackjack, win a single bet, win a doubled bet, win both split bets, win one split bet and push one split bet, lose a single bet, lose a doubled bet, lose both split bets, lose one split bet and push one split bet, etc. (Note that lost bets should be put in as negative numbers in the formula above)

Overall, the chances of you winning are about 43%, and the chances of you losing are 49%, with the remainder pushing. However, your average win when you win is much greater than 1 (1.25?), while your average loss is only slightly higher than 1 (1.05?). So when you calculate your EV for blackjack, the house edge is much smaller than 6% - it's about 0.3% to 1%.
 

Kasi

Well-Known Member
callipygian said:
No, it means that if you bet $100, you can expect to get back $99.34 in the long run.
More technically it means you will lose 0.66% of your initial bet wager not of your total dollars wagered.

Plat 1000 rounds at $1/hand, you may have wagered $1100 by then with DA2and DAS. Your EV is 0.66%*1000, not 0.66%*1100.
 
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