Casinos selling your name to mailing lists

21forme

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I laughed when I got a "you've been pre-approved..." credit card offer in the mail recently. It was for an alt ID I've only used at Borgata. I wonder what "his" credit score is...
 

ihate17

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Interesting possibilities in dangerous times

The laws seem to be in a state change when it comes to false ID's these terrorist plauged days.
Years ago I had a credit card linked to a business alias which was known by the issueing bank so they had no problem with this and I have kept it active.
Through this I was able to create a credit line with a casino. Again because it was a business alias, tied to a bank that I banked with and my markers were always paid, I believe there obviously no attempt on my part to defraud anyone of a cent, just not let the casino know my true identity.

I am not sure if all this can be done today, if it can I would guess it would be much harder to accomplish and the key question to you, and here you might wish legal advice: If you apply for the card, do you also give the bank your true information or not, requesting that only the alias be listed on the card itself?

ihate17
 

21forme

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I threw the app. out. I do have a few alias credit cards issued via my business. They don't require any "employee" specific info, as the business is the primary cardholder/guarantor.
 

rukus

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it is perfectly legal to get a credit card in another name as long as you pay it off instead of racking up fraudulent charges that you dont intend to pay.
 

sagefr0g

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rukus said:
it is perfectly legal to get a credit card in another name as long as you pay it off instead of racking up fraudulent charges that you dont intend to pay.
would you be able to cite any law referances on that? just curious.
 

callipygian

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rukus said:
it is perfectly legal to get a credit card in another name as long as you pay it off instead of racking up fraudulent charges that you dont intend to pay.
Yes, this is 100% correct. The company doesn't care whose name is on the credit card so long as the bill is paid every month.

However, this means that using a credit card as a form of ID is pretty much worthless. Places ask for "government-issued" ID because that is the only form of ID that is illegal to fake - you can even make up a fake company ID for any company and it's perfectly legal. Now, of course, if you use it to defraud someone or to gain access into restricted areas, you are liable for other crimes, but if you find a casino who will issue you a players card based on a credit card or company ID, you're in the clear as far as the law is concerned.
 

shadroch

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I've gotten player cards in almost every AC casino,using a fake name and showing them what looks to be a NYPD issued press pass,but is in fact a laminated NYPD press pass application. " Government issued ID means different things to different people,especially underpaid,overworked boothlings who try to follow the course of least resistance.
 

callipygian

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sagefr0g said:
would you be able to cite any law referances on that? just curious.
Proving something is legal is much harder than proving something is illegal.

In this case, I think the best thing to note is the number of credit cards that have been issued to weird things. Presumably, if having a credit card with a fake name were illegal, these stories wouldn't be broadcast, as the owners would have found themselves in trouble for trying to obtain "fake" credit cards.

Toddler issued credit card:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/417131.stm

Dog issued credit card:
(Dead link: http://www.goofball.com/news/200402041001)

Cat issued credit card:
https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000851.html (Archive copy)

Tree issued credit card:
http://www.knbc.com/money/5529720/detail.html (Archive copy)
 
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