John Grochowski's latest column at Casino City Times:
Casinos should make games better
Casinos should make games better
Casinos would still make money, due to the continual stream of idiots splitting 4's vs. dealer 10. and the like.Forget the 6-5 payoffs on two-card 21s that have become an unfortunate trend on the Las Vegas Strip, and pay the full 3-2. Let blackjack be a beatable game. After all, few players can beat it.
The games will not get better or worse, only different. As long as there is a human dealing printed paper cards to players there will always be a way to beat the game. The ways to beat it will change, but the game itself will not get better or worse, only different.jack said:This makes me wonder, about the future of blackjack. Will the games get better or will they continue to get worse.
This excerpt hits a nerve with me, in that I've maintained for some time now that the casinos have been "choking" themselves by overly restrictive BJ rules due to the false fear of being hammered by card counters. Mr. Tamburin's statements reflect the concepts from my post a while back titled "The few, the Proud..."Brutus said:Casinos would still make money, due to the continual stream of idiots splitting 4's vs. dealer 10. and the like.
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seriously, we've all seen it.
I just had a thought about getting the attention of casino execs.ihate17 said:So, the day you walk into the MGM and see the two S-17 pits overflowing with players but no one at the H-17 pit and every 6/5 single deck table sitting empty, while all the blackjack pits at Harrah's are empty, it probably will get the attention of casino execs.
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Worse and worser lol.jack said:This makes me wonder, about the future of blackjack. Will the games get better or will they continue to get worse..
I hope they keep getting worse! Muhahahaah! :devil:Kasi said:Worse and worser lol.
In 5 years there won't be an S17 in the country.
In ten years, there won't be a 3-2 BJ game.
So they'll have 5% fewer players with 95% of the players making them 4%.
moo321 said:Sure, there's no more single deck games, but who cares. We're in a golden age. If they completely removed blackjack from casinos, we would still have it better than someone in the late 60's.
so a csm can be beaten?Sonny said:The games will not get better or worse, only different. As long as there is a human dealing printed paper cards to players there will always be a way to beat the game. The ways to beat it will change, but the game itself will not get better or worse, only different.
-Sonny-
Right. There are simply too many ways for a player to get an advantage from a bad dealer or cards. The rules of the game can sometimes be insignificant. If you can run fast enough, you can excel at almost any sport. Imagine being the Bo Jackson of Blackjack!sagefr0g said:are you saying no amount of the bean counters tampering with the rules and pay offs can make the game unbeatable?
You're most likely right on that guy, but things aren't always what they appear in a casino. Last time I played I hit hard 17 three or four times, waved off all kinds of stiffs with a 10 up, split some 10's, doubled 8 v 10up... The dealer was just crushing everybody, he got six 20's in a row (no surrender available unfortunately) and the count (which I keep out of habit) plunged into the negatives...Before long we went from a full table to myself being the only player except for a Chinese lady who stayed around not to play, but to curse out my terrible play to anyone who dare venture up to the table because I cost her all her money...Then one East Indian guy played one hand despite her warnings. The very next hand he gives me $100 and asks if I will bet it for him on my spot while he sits out, all the while grinning ear to ear. Though I didn't know him I agreed for just ONE hand, he lost his $100. I think 99% of BJ players/dealers and even most PC's would think I was the idiot, maybe some thought the East Indian guy was a bigger idiot for betting on me. He probably thought it was the best bet he would make all night when he placed it. I'd love to see better BJ rules, but as Sonny stated advantages will always exist without them when playing with paper cards and human dealers....and probably still exist, though for even fewer people, when paper cards and human dealers are removed from the equation.bj bob said:This excerpt hits a nerve with me, in that I've maintained for some time now that the casinos have been "choking" themselves by overly restrictive BJ rules due to the false fear of being hammered by card counters. Mr. Tamburin's statements reflect the concepts from my post a while back titled "The few, the Proud..."
I seriously doubt that 5 out of 100 BJ players would be able to take advantage of expanded rules such as insurance, DAS, DOA and suurender. The five percent who could would just represent a normal "cost of doing business" while providing the elusive "golden carrot" notion for the rest of the masses.
Just the other night, this guy on 1st base stands on an A-5 with a $150 bet. Money right down the toilet! I just shook my head since I knew this guy was a sucessful and intellengent car dealer (table chit-chat), but was such an idiot at BJ.
geesh casino's really are some serious advantage players ain't theydacium said:There was a big study in Australia on card counters that went to the state government because the counters wanted some laws changed.
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The counters wanted a number of laws changed, they failed to get any one of the laws changed because the casinos obviously are the ones paying the tax and thus the pay checks of the gambling commision so they get what they want. All of these requests failed:
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