Caution at Tropicana high-limit

[ArcticInferno]

I almost got identified at Tropicana recently.
The pits in the general floor were all full, so I walked into the empty high-limit pit.
I bought in for $2000 and played two hands at the $50 table.
The counts were generally poor, but one time I was able to bet two hands of $400 each.
Isn't the choke threshold $400?
Anyway, the pit boss was a man named [deleted as per suggested by daddybo].
He was watching me with some suspicion.
After a few shoes, he turned his back to me and softly whispered to the other dealer "He does know the basic strategy."
I read in many books that the first step in trying to identify a card counter is to establish knowledge of the basic strategy. Is that correct?
After a few more rounds and losing several hands, I said to the dealer "You're too strong for me." and colored up. I had lost $1000 overall.
Was that a close call? Or do you think I've been identified?
Should I stay away from Tropicana for a while? For how long?

 

[daddybo]

You bought in for too much.... So what if you know BS. It's not a close call until they are standing around you glaring. I was playing the other day and was dealt A,7 against the dealer 10 on the second hand. Of course I took a hit. I received the 3 and the PB Roars "Good Hit! ... that's the correct play. Most people do that one wrong and stand with an soft 18." I played for many hours after that at the same level you were playing.

Every PB sizes up the players for many reasons.. it's not the same as heat. The is nothing wrong with knowing how to play.

P.S. If you don't take the name and description off your post.. its highly possible your are not only identified but also your handle is associated with you. :whip::eyepatch:

 

[21forme]

Were you playing with a card? If not, it's not too late until you get half-shoed or shuffled If so, the only way to know is when you go back.

You're always going to get more scrutiny in a HL room. Back in the 4D craze days, I remember one PC (tall, thin, bald) who was very on the ball. The rest of them I wouldn't worry about.

 

[Lonesome Gambler]

My first thought was the buy-in as well. If anyone buys into a $50 table for that much cash, they're automatically under scrutiny. If you were playing unrated, double that scrutiny. Either way, just stay away from that shift for a few weeks (maybe months) and don't worry about it.

 

[ArcticInferno]

No, I never use a player's card. I always play as a "refusal" to remain anonymous.
My little excuse is, "I'm afraid of identity theft."
I didn't get half-shoed or shuffled.
I'll have to stay out of the high-limit areas, all the time no matter what.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

...I'll have to stay out of the high-limit areas, all the time no matter what.

A capital suggestion! Until you're betting over $1000 per hand, it's just not worth it. Higher minimums, NMS, and all kinds of scrutiny.

 

[daddybo]

A capital suggestion! Until you're betting over $1000 per hand, it's just not worth it. Higher minimums, NMS, and all kinds of scrutiny.

Not to disagree.. but the HL room decision really depends on the store and the other game options... sometime hL rooms have much higher quality games, but not usually.

 

[21forme]

Not to disagree.. but the HL room decision really depends on the store and the other game options... sometime hL rooms have much higher quality games, but not usually.

In AC, they usually do have better games in the HL room. I've played several of the AC HET HL rooms, but wouldn't go near their regular games.

 

[ArcticInferno]

This looks like a judgment call based on individual preferences.
Better rules means higher EV, at the cost of higher stress lever.
Pepcid/Prevacid isn't free, you know.
I'm reading my 12th book now (Burning the Tables in Las Vegas 2nd edition).
After mastering Andersen's techniques, maybe I'll give the high-limit rooms another try.
However, I enjoy the free and relaxed atmosphere of the general floor.
I don't like the tense air in the high-limit rooms.

 

[daddybo]

This looks like a judgment call based on individual preferences.
Better rules means higher EV, at the cost of higher stress lever.
Pepcid/Prevacid isn't free, you know.
I'm reading my 12th book now (Burning the Tables in Las Vegas 2nd edition).
After mastering Andersen's techniques, maybe I'll give the high-limit rooms another try.
However, I enjoy the free and relaxed atmosphere of the general floor.
I don't like the tense air in the high-limit rooms.

it's tense because you are.. Lexapro my friend. :laugh:

 

[Ferretnparrot]

Isn't the choke threshold $400?

In my experience, the choke threshold is between 150-200 depending on the casino, but in all instances I play two hand so you coudl say it is 300-400

If you are playing two hands of 400, your well into get shuffled on territory.

As for the encounter, I would take it as a personal note to remember who that was, and make sure to pull some crazy non counterlike manuevers to throw them I might go play the craps table right accross form the HL room, and call his attention, or walk in and drop one huge bet on one hand for no reason and walk out.

Making bets doesnt cost very much compared to what you make on other hands that you play at an advantage, you just have to keep tabs on how many you make

Youll be getting sick comps with dual 400 dollar bets, you dont want to lose that ability, so take it seriously.

If you do get backed off, I have a players card in a fake name with a pin number I will sell for good money for a male age 23.