CBJN or TrackJack

[Shaggy18vw]

I have seen what Trackjack has to offer. I found many of their reports on Vegas and Reno games inaccurate. Is CBJN any better? Is it equivalent to what Blackjack Forum was? I don't want to get into a heated discussion about all the controversy that may or may not have occured at RGE. I have read all that info and have my own opinion. I just want to know if CBJN is a waste of time. It is not a cost issue. It is the principle of the matter. I don't want to bother opening a pdf if all I read is garbage. I understand that games change on a minute to minute basis so all reports are subject to variance, but on the whole is CBJN reliable.

 

[zengrifter]

CBJN is the standard bearer

TJ is/was the new competitor.

Initially, or possibly to this day, much data is gleaned by TJ's editor(s) from CBJN.

Where TJ was supposed to have the edge was in two areas - 1) Its online and PDA downloadable format, and 2) Its interactivity whereby users could themselves instantly update the conditions of a game.

I haven't used TJ since the early-late betaa so I don't know if it has delivered on its promise, but I do know that CBJN delivers on its. zg

 

[BJforBooze]

Before a trip to Las Vegas a month or 2 ago, I compared them and noted all the large differences (all in penetration) but I was probably biased in selecting games in which I was interested. I then compared the actual conditions with these. Sometimes one was better and sometimes the other. CBJN gave more favourable figures than actual for Luxor & Tropicana 6-deck and Trackjack gave less favourable figures than actual for LV Hilton 2-deck & MGM Grand 6-deck. Both gave less favourable figures than actual for Caesar's Palace 6-deck.
I did not record any comparison where there were small differences.
This comparison would certainly not be significant. There is also plenty of scope for differences between shifts etc. to be missed where penetration varies.
Trackjack has the advantages of including other countries (but with gaps) and having a searchable database.
It is probably worth having both.

 

[Shaggy18vw]

That is about what I expected.

The course that this thread took is about what I expected. It looks like I will get a subscription to CBJN just to try it out. I am definently not adequately pleased with the information that Trackjack provides. As many of you have pointed out, these "inaccuracies" may just be inherent in the reporting of game conditions.

 

[The Mayor]

Seeing eye-to-eye

Sadly, I took down the thread involving the discussion of Trackjack, RGE, and CBJN. I am very sorry that an objective discussion about the merits of these services got personal, and the thread was removed based on the request of several individuals.

The Internet is a great place to discuss ideas, organize meetings, share information, store and retrieve data, and so on.

When ideas and opinions presented on the Internet create polar positions that may lead to conflict, the Internet is not the optimal place to continue that dialogue. Communication is more than 90% non-verbal. What is meant as opinion can quickly become personal. When there are misunderstandings, we may assume there was intent or malice. We miss the nuances of facial expression, tone of voice, pauses, humor, wit, and most importantly (when possible), eye contact.

I hope that those individuals and groups who are in conflict (both in blackjack and in the world) will find more direct ways to communicate, personal ways, and ones that allow for the real possibility for resolution.

In this season we often hear the expression "Peace on Earth, good will to all." Let's try and model that in the blackjack community.

--Mayor

 

[Ouchez]

Well said Mayor. Kudos to you.