Chill out or check it out?

[Diver]

I'll be in Vegas for a business meeting over several days and have some time to play. I was backed off at a place on a previous trip with the admonition I could play anything else, just not BJ. The back-off came after I returned several shifts after scoring a modest win-- $1,700 on a $25 min. DD game (yeah, dumb). I think the tape must have been reviewed afterwards because it was a very slow time (week before Christmas) and the PB showed no sign of interest while I was playing. They had my players card, but I played that day and the next day at the property where I was staying and where the card originated several days before. No problem from any PB and I received a modest decrease in my room charge when I checked with the players club before checking out. So my question concerns how to proceed now. If I use my players card at the casino where I was staying before (and will this time) and don't have a problem, is it worth trying some of the other properties in that group using my card, or better to play without it? Would it be worth trying the place where I was backed off (no card of course) since they have one of the better DD games in the group? Or better to let some more time pass before trying that one again?

 

[Jeff25]

I am in the same boat you are in Diver. We were probably backed off from the same property. I would toss you players card in the garbage because your name is probably marked at all sister properties. I was told from other members that I now have 3 options: play unrated, find a random players card..or..I dont think I should mention the third option, but im sure you can guess what it might be.

Since it has only been 3 months since your backoff, I dont think I would recommend going back to the same property just yet.

 

[Doofus]

I dont think I should mention the third option, but im sure you can guess what it might be.

Playing with a fake ID? Believe me, the casinos already know this is possible. They read "Busting Vega$" too.

 

[EasyRhino]

So wait, have you ever given your players card to a pit critter after the backoff at ANY of the properties of this group? It would be a reasonable assumption that your account has been marked, but I guess it wouldn't hurt a test (just walk into a joint, see what happens, and walk out).

And you could always play unrated. I'd probably avoid the particular shift that zapped you, though.

 

[Jeff25]

Playing with a fake ID? Believe me, the casinos already know this is possible. They read "Busting Vega$" too.

Yes I realize that. I didn't mention it because I don't know Ken's policy around recommending illegal activities on his public msg board.

 

[Diver]

played with the card afterwards

So wait, have you ever given your players card to a pit critter after the backoff at ANY of the properties of this group? It would be a reasonable assumption that your account has been marked, but I guess it wouldn't hurt a test (just walk into a joint, see what happens, and walk out).

And you could always play unrated. I'd probably avoid the particular shift that zapped you, though.

I did use my card at the issuing casino the same day and day following the back off at their sister property. I also recently called the players club to inquire about requirements for room comps just to see if there would be any odd reaction. The person I talked to said I'd need to play at a certain level of hours and betting to qualify for a room comp. He also confirmed I had time logged in at the place that backed me off when I asked. So either he was playing it cool or the info about the back off hasn't made it into their system. Since I'm staying at the issuing property for a business event, I'll probably go ahead and give them my card and see what happens. If I'm marked there now, I'll assume that's the case at all of the group properties and just play unrated at the others. Happily I have a friend who doesn't gamble but goes to Vegas on occasion and has agreed to sign up for a players card he'll let me have. But that won't be for a while.

 

[Ferretnparrot]

i have a card that i got at trump plaza, and it gets thrown in my face at trump marina, and trump taj too, they really hit me in the face with it once, no joke

Sometimes comp cards are still good for free parking, or other perks like discounted food and such, so NEVER actually throw them away

I was backed of at x casino, and took the liberty of taking a day off my regular job to play in the casino during a shift that i have NEVER played in EVER so none of the people there ahve ever seen me in person, but somehow within 12 minutes of walking into the casino and not even giving them a card, they told me they didnt really want me to play and asked if i would go somewhere else, as the dealer was shuffling the cards before i even played.

 

[EasyRhino]

Remember Diver, the acid test is to give them the players card at a blackjack table. If they don't throw it in your face, then maybe you're like the guy in Office Space who kept getting paid for a year after he got fired.

 

[ihate17]

Is it illegal?

Yes I realize that. I didn't mention it because I don't know Ken's policy around recommending illegal activities on his public msg board.

Honestly, I do not know, but I was thinking that if the use of the ID was not for illegal activities and if law enforcement was called and then you gave them your real ID, what crime is commited if the sole purpose of the ID was to enable you to play completely within the rules of a blackjack game?

ihate17

 

[Mimosine]

Yes I realize that. I didn't mention it because I don't know Ken's policy around recommending illegal activities on his public msg board.

i don't think this is illegal. though thanks for thinking of Ken and this msg board, since a lot of us really appreciate both.

 

[zengrifter]

I'll be in Vegas for a business meeting over several days and have some time to play. I was backed off at a place on a previous trip with the admonition I could play anything else, just not BJ. The back-off came after I returned several shifts after scoring a modest win-- $1,700 on a $25 min. DD game (yeah, dumb). I think the tape must have been reviewed afterwards because it was a very slow time (week before Christmas) and the PB showed no sign of interest while I was playing. They had my players card, but I played that day and the next day at the property where I was staying and where the card originated several days before. No problem from any PB and I received a modest decrease in my room charge when I checked with the players club before checking out. So my question concerns how to proceed now. If I use my players card at the casino where I was staying before (and will this time) and don't have a problem, is it worth trying some of the other properties in that group using my card, or better to play without it? Would it be worth trying the place where I was backed off (no card of course) since they have one of the better DD games in the group? Or better to let some more time pass before trying that one again?

You'll be fine - wear a hat this time, or vice-versa, and use someone elses card and act like you couldn't be more at home.
Try to stay clear of the pit critter who axed you. zg

 

[moo321]

i don't think this is illegal. though thanks for thinking of Ken and this msg board, since a lot of us really appreciate both.

Just don't make a fake GOVERNMENT ID, and you'll be fine. Fake foreign ID, work ID, college ID, all could work ok. Fake government ID might be okay, but I don't know, and I personally wouldn't ever chance it.