Connecticut vs Atlantic City
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Boston_Jaxel
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I found little to no heat at Foxwoods last time I was there. Spreading 1-10 on a $10 table.(8deck, S17,DOA,3:2) But a $10 table is hard to find. This was a weekday morning. The tables go to $25 as soon as it's gets busy. and get very crowded, but there are alot of people waiting to play, so I find that it makes back counting easy, just hard to wong in when the count gets good. Dealers/Pit Critters are friendly for the most part. Nice Steakhouse there too.
Automatic Monkey
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Hi. You will never find a $5 game in CT. $10 on the weekdays if you are lucky, strictly $25 on the weekends.
I spread $25-$300 in both casinos with no heat. Unlike AC both casinos have LSR which is a very powerful rule for a big spreader.
Mohegan Sun: "Earth Casino" 6 decks, 1-2.5 penetration, very variable. One quirky rule- no split 10 value cards. Pit is very friendly, dealers joke with players about counting, nice atmosphere. Also some full pay 9/6 VP machines ($5) for cover play. CSM's on about half the tables... "Sky Casino" - 8 decks, 1.5-2.5 pen, some tables are 12-spot meaning even at a full table you can still play 2 hands. A few CSM. Same rules and friendliness as above. Comps can be used for gas in the reservation gas station (makes them good as cash).
Foxwoods: huge number of tables, sometimes lower limits than Mohegan. Strictly 8D, 1-1.5 pen, same rules as above (S17, LSR, DOA, DAS) but you can split anything. Pit is AC trained so they are pricks. Comps build up pretty fast but can be used for food & lodging only. No CSM. Cheaters are present and I even saw a cheating counter once.
So if you can get to CT there is no reason at all to go to AC; better rules, better pen.
I spread $25-$300 in both casinos with no heat. Unlike AC both casinos have LSR which is a very powerful rule for a big spreader.
Mohegan Sun: "Earth Casino" 6 decks, 1-2.5 penetration, very variable. One quirky rule- no split 10 value cards. Pit is very friendly, dealers joke with players about counting, nice atmosphere. Also some full pay 9/6 VP machines ($5) for cover play. CSM's on about half the tables... "Sky Casino" - 8 decks, 1.5-2.5 pen, some tables are 12-spot meaning even at a full table you can still play 2 hands. A few CSM. Same rules and friendliness as above. Comps can be used for gas in the reservation gas station (makes them good as cash).
Foxwoods: huge number of tables, sometimes lower limits than Mohegan. Strictly 8D, 1-1.5 pen, same rules as above (S17, LSR, DOA, DAS) but you can split anything. Pit is AC trained so they are pricks. Comps build up pretty fast but can be used for food & lodging only. No CSM. Cheaters are present and I even saw a cheating counter once.
So if you can get to CT there is no reason at all to go to AC; better rules, better pen.
The winner is.......Neither! Both games suck! The CT games are the lesser of the two evils due to the ls. The pen at both places on the main floor hovers at 1.5-2.0/8 so why waste your time?? Hop on a plane and go to MS or Vegas.
The steakhouse at the woods is ok not great IMO. It doesnt compare to anything you will eat in Vegas.
good luck
wong out
The steakhouse at the woods is ok not great IMO. It doesnt compare to anything you will eat in Vegas.
good luck
wong out
Automatic Monkey
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I wouldn't say the CT games suck. There are a few better shoe games, sure. The 8D game at Turning Stone has consistent 1 deck or less pen.
But is Vegas really better? LV pen is on the average better, but you can shop for pen at Mohegan and find 6/1 on any given night. The big difference is the heat; I spread green 1:12 and red 1:30 in CT without a trace of heat. Eight hours at a time. Those outfits are so big and so profitable they couldn't care less what a green or red player spreads.
Now I live in CT and can go whenever I want so there would have to be something way, way better to justify my going to LV just to play. A counter who lives in NJ can probably figure out a way to beat AC too; it just doesn't make sense to go there unless you are local.
But is Vegas really better? LV pen is on the average better, but you can shop for pen at Mohegan and find 6/1 on any given night. The big difference is the heat; I spread green 1:12 and red 1:30 in CT without a trace of heat. Eight hours at a time. Those outfits are so big and so profitable they couldn't care less what a green or red player spreads.
Now I live in CT and can go whenever I want so there would have to be something way, way better to justify my going to LV just to play. A counter who lives in NJ can probably figure out a way to beat AC too; it just doesn't make sense to go there unless you are local.
Youre somewhat right in that you can sometimes find decent pen. There are three main problems with CT:
-1st not enough dealers give decent pen; so you getinto a game and your dealer goes on break and you are stuck for the next 20 mins or so; in Vegas you can usually change tables and keep on chugging;
=2nd the crowds are tough in Ct;
-the third; in vegas you can change casinos at will; in ct you dont have much to choose from so you better limit your play
BTW - my comments are from my perspective of high end play. If you can deal with the crowds then ct may be ok for lower stakes. BTW - there are things you can exploit in AC but its a tough row with traditional counting due to the heat; rules; pen and low tolerance for high action.
good luck
wongout
-1st not enough dealers give decent pen; so you getinto a game and your dealer goes on break and you are stuck for the next 20 mins or so; in Vegas you can usually change tables and keep on chugging;
=2nd the crowds are tough in Ct;
-the third; in vegas you can change casinos at will; in ct you dont have much to choose from so you better limit your play
BTW - my comments are from my perspective of high end play. If you can deal with the crowds then ct may be ok for lower stakes. BTW - there are things you can exploit in AC but its a tough row with traditional counting due to the heat; rules; pen and low tolerance for high action.
good luck
wongout