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person1125

person1125

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I was wondering if there is any other way to figure out the number of remaining decks besides visually looking at the discard tray? I was thinking of doing this by avg. number of cards a person gets. Are there any stats on what the average number of cards a person gets is? Because lets say the average person gets 3 cards.

If you are at a full table, lets say 6D with 1.5 deck cut out, you could say that after each round there would have been 24 cards dealt (7 players, 1 dealer). You could est. this as being 1/2 deck delt and say that there are 5.5 decks left. You could then change your number depending on how many are at the table. The only problem I see is that there probably isn't an average number of cards dealt, so my idea would be out the window.

Or am I better off learning to visually figure how many decks are in the discard tray? Any ideas or help would be great.
 
sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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person1125 said:
I was wondering if there is any other way to figure out the number of remaining decks besides visually looking at the discard tray? I was thinking of doing this by avg. number of cards a person gets. Are there any stats on what the average number of cards a person gets is? Because lets say the average person gets 3 cards.

If you are at a full table, lets say 6D with 1.5 deck cut out, you could say that after each round there would have been 24 cards dealt (7 players, 1 dealer). You could est. this as being 1/2 deck delt and say that there are 5.5 decks left. You could then change your number depending on how many are at the table. The only problem I see is that there probably isn't an average number of cards dealt, so my idea would be out the window.

Or am I better off learning to visually figure how many decks are in the discard tray? Any ideas or help would be great.
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yup thats a known method of deck estimation. John May talks about it in Get the Edge at Blackjack. i believe he advised 2.7 cards per person.
 
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Bojack1

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person1125 said:
I was wondering if there is any other way to figure out the number of remaining decks besides visually looking at the discard tray? I was thinking of doing this by avg. number of cards a person gets. Are there any stats on what the average number of cards a person gets is? Because lets say the average person gets 3 cards.

If you are at a full table, lets say 6D with 1.5 deck cut out, you could say that after each round there would have been 24 cards dealt (7 players, 1 dealer). You could est. this as being 1/2 deck delt and say that there are 5.5 decks left. You could then change your number depending on how many are at the table. The only problem I see is that there probably isn't an average number of cards dealt, so my idea would be out the window.

Or am I better off learning to visually figure how many decks are in the discard tray? Any ideas or help would be great.
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The average person gets approximately 2.5 cards per hand. So every 5 hands thats including the dealer, will be about 1/4 deck. Its a rough estimate and it can be off sometimes because it is just an average. The best way of doing it is still learning how to visually estimate. Once you get that down cold, it will free up your mind to concentrate on other things.
 
bj bob

bj bob

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sagefr0g said:
yup thats a known method of deck estimation. John May talks about it in Get the Edge at Blackjack. i believe he advised 2.7 cards per person.
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Yep, Frog is correct. I've seen 2.7 as the average a number of times. One way I've used to calculate deck est. using a more "brain friendly" method is to use #hands x 10 to equal 1/2 deck. This is blending both methods a bit. So 4 players + dealer x 2 rounds= 1/2 deck. By rotating your cocktail glass, bottle in increments like the face of a clock (1-12) you have a pretty accurate indicator of #of 1/2 decks played through an entire 6D shoe. OOPS!! Overshare.
 
person1125

person1125

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follow up question

ok that leaves me with a follow up question. If I practice at home est. visually what is the best kind of cards to use and by kind i mean used or new. I know the casino rotates the cards so they are fairly new, so I i had to guess I would say use cards that are kinda used. Very used cards would be too tall and brand new would be too short. Am i right in my thinking to practice with used, but not too used of cards?? Does the brand of cards make any difference?
 
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