Courts rule: 6/5 Blackjack illegal
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phantom007
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DITTO!....And while on this "vile" subject,
may I ask some "Really Stupid Questions?" Certainly, no decent AP will play this game except maybe for Cover AND Comps....I stress the "AND" because BOTH will be needed to overcome the House Advantage.
I must admit, I did play this game once in LV, just out of curiosity....NO BS at this table...lots of social play with "Low Rollers"...guy was betting $10/hand and had not one but THREE Friends behind him, cheering him on and offering advice. I was spreading $10-$100. I made the following observations:
1. 6:5 attracts the P.I.T.'s, i.e., Ploppies in Training. These folks have yet to grasp the concept "that a 10 always follows a 10"...certainly not true, but they are at the stage that a "7 always follows a 10", so DD on 14!
2. 1:10 spread generated NO HEAT, just caused a shuffle! Whenever I jumped bet by 10x...SHUFFLE...5:1's and less was ok. P.I.T.'s did not understand why the Dealer shuffled so much, but did not care either...gave them more time talk strategy for the next round..."I she shows an Ace-up, always take Ins.". Probably not a good bet with a "2-up".
3. My $1k buy-in lasted all of 30 minutes. Got "back-to-back" BJ's in Neg. Cts. P.I.T.'s kindly advised me that I should have bet more! "Sir, you could have won $240. instead of $24, if you bet like you did last deck". Thanks!
4. Left so mad at myself for playing such a STUPID GAME, that I forgot to get my free buffet comp.....was there long enough to order a "free drink", just was gone when it arrived.
Anyhow, MY STUPID QUESTIONS:
1. Any Readers/Posters/AP's been Backed-off/Flat-bet/Barred from 6:5, and/or heard of same happening to others?
2. Any Barred AP's (I mean "No More BJ", not 86'd) re-entered said stores, played 6:5, and had problems?
Thanks.
phantom007.
may I ask some "Really Stupid Questions?" Certainly, no decent AP will play this game except maybe for Cover AND Comps....I stress the "AND" because BOTH will be needed to overcome the House Advantage.
I must admit, I did play this game once in LV, just out of curiosity....NO BS at this table...lots of social play with "Low Rollers"...guy was betting $10/hand and had not one but THREE Friends behind him, cheering him on and offering advice. I was spreading $10-$100. I made the following observations:
1. 6:5 attracts the P.I.T.'s, i.e., Ploppies in Training. These folks have yet to grasp the concept "that a 10 always follows a 10"...certainly not true, but they are at the stage that a "7 always follows a 10", so DD on 14!
2. 1:10 spread generated NO HEAT, just caused a shuffle! Whenever I jumped bet by 10x...SHUFFLE...5:1's and less was ok. P.I.T.'s did not understand why the Dealer shuffled so much, but did not care either...gave them more time talk strategy for the next round..."I she shows an Ace-up, always take Ins.". Probably not a good bet with a "2-up".
3. My $1k buy-in lasted all of 30 minutes. Got "back-to-back" BJ's in Neg. Cts. P.I.T.'s kindly advised me that I should have bet more! "Sir, you could have won $240. instead of $24, if you bet like you did last deck". Thanks!
4. Left so mad at myself for playing such a STUPID GAME, that I forgot to get my free buffet comp.....was there long enough to order a "free drink", just was gone when it arrived.
Anyhow, MY STUPID QUESTIONS:
1. Any Readers/Posters/AP's been Backed-off/Flat-bet/Barred from 6:5, and/or heard of same happening to others?
2. Any Barred AP's (I mean "No More BJ", not 86'd) re-entered said stores, played 6:5, and had problems?
Thanks.
phantom007.
Sonny
Well-Known Member
I wish I was barred!
> 2. Any Barred AP's (I mean "No More BJ", not 86'd) re-entered said stores,
> played 6:5, and had problems?
"Sorry sir, no more 6:5 for you. You can still play regular 3:2 blackjack though."
I have heard of APs playing 6:5 a long time ago, but I have never heard anything since. I have also never seen any intellegent play at the 6:5 tables. I know that the game can be beaten but I think that most APs have found that it simply isn't worth the effort when there are better games out there.
I think that the pit would be upset if a barred player returned to play 6:5. It is probably more of an ego thing for them. "I told this guy not to play any more BJ and now he's doing it right in front of my face!"
If they know that you are an AP and can beat the game they will not want you playing at all. They may know that 6:5 is a losing game, but they also know that you are an AP. Why would an AP play BJ if he can't win?
-Sonny-
> 2. Any Barred AP's (I mean "No More BJ", not 86'd) re-entered said stores,
> played 6:5, and had problems?
"Sorry sir, no more 6:5 for you. You can still play regular 3:2 blackjack though."
I have heard of APs playing 6:5 a long time ago, but I have never heard anything since. I have also never seen any intellegent play at the 6:5 tables. I know that the game can be beaten but I think that most APs have found that it simply isn't worth the effort when there are better games out there.
I think that the pit would be upset if a barred player returned to play 6:5. It is probably more of an ego thing for them. "I told this guy not to play any more BJ and now he's doing it right in front of my face!"
If they know that you are an AP and can beat the game they will not want you playing at all. They may know that 6:5 is a losing game, but they also know that you are an AP. Why would an AP play BJ if he can't win?
-Sonny-
ignorance of the pit
You have to realize that besides the few sharpe pit types there are many a clock puncher, who really do not quite understand just how bad a game 6/5 is. Besides them, you also have dual rates and just out of college types, who both lack game management experience. Let some dual rate see a known counter or barred player on a 6/5 table and he will immediately begin adding up brownie points if he is one who someday wants to be the pit boss. They will 86 you and perhaps try to figure out what is wrong with their game.
The only way you will find a counter at a 6/5 table, in my opinion, is if she can get hole card information. Of course that's just my opinion.
Victoria
You have to realize that besides the few sharpe pit types there are many a clock puncher, who really do not quite understand just how bad a game 6/5 is. Besides them, you also have dual rates and just out of college types, who both lack game management experience. Let some dual rate see a known counter or barred player on a 6/5 table and he will immediately begin adding up brownie points if he is one who someday wants to be the pit boss. They will 86 you and perhaps try to figure out what is wrong with their game.
The only way you will find a counter at a 6/5 table, in my opinion, is if she can get hole card information. Of course that's just my opinion.
Victoria
Technically you can play 6:5...
If you are backed off from blackjack you can still play 6:5 since it isn't technically blackjack, correct? So if you have already been barred from playing blackjack at a place why not go back a spread wildly and back count and take advantage of the 6:5 game as best as possible for as long as possible? You have nothing to lose.
If you are backed off from blackjack you can still play 6:5 since it isn't technically blackjack, correct? So if you have already been barred from playing blackjack at a place why not go back a spread wildly and back count and take advantage of the 6:5 game as best as possible for as long as possible? You have nothing to lose.