CV Data question
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QFIT
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Hmm. Easy enough to sim a bet that the hole-card is a ten or face. Question is, how do you set it to bet only when there is an upcard of 7-A? This should work:bj21abc said:
Set Side bet 1 to bet 1 unit all other side bets bet 0 units.
Side Bets 1-5. Always pay it back if the dealer upcard is 2-6. This would nullify the bet if the card is not 7-A.
Side Bets 6-10. Pay the bonus if the upcard is 7-A and the downcard is any ten.
Set "Side bets are merged."
Once the sim determines the TC needed for the side bet to be profitable, you can set Side Bet 1 to only bet at that count.
I think I'll add a feature to allow Upcard>= or <= to make this easier in future.
This doesn't really make sense. If I set side bet one to bet 1 unit and side bets merged, the side bets option disappears for all side bets above 1 in any case.
If any of the 2-6 side bets win then you get an even money payoff -
but you should be getting a push, not a payoff.
Perhaps Side bet 1 that hole card is an X, paying 2:1
and then Side bets 2-6 that would pay -2:1 for dealer upcards of 2 - 6.
Does that make sense ?
If any of the 2-6 side bets win then you get an even money payoff -
but you should be getting a push, not a payoff.
Perhaps Side bet 1 that hole card is an X, paying 2:1
and then Side bets 2-6 that would pay -2:1 for dealer upcards of 2 - 6.
Does that make sense ?
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This is the part I am still having a problem with.QFIT said:
Side bet 1 means that I will always bet 1 unit, only. Merging the side bets means that I get a payoff for any of the merged side bets, still at the cost of my original 1 unit bet.
Setting the payoff at 1:1 (upcard 2-6) will give me a win. My cost is the original 1 unit bet, and at a 1:1 payoff I will receive 2 units back.
Not going well
Well... we have a problem here.
I began by defining 10 side bets: side bet 1 was upcard 2 and any downcard, payoff 0:1 - did the same for all upcards. This worked as it should, giving me a zero (no win/loss) result.
1. I then set the A sidebet to upcard A downcard X payoff 2.0:
this gave a more or less as expected result (although total win should have mirrored insurance which it did not - about 10% off)
2. If I try to do the same with any other upcard (eg 9) I get negative EV - whearas the results should be identical to the A sidebet.
Any ideas ?
Well... we have a problem here.
I began by defining 10 side bets: side bet 1 was upcard 2 and any downcard, payoff 0:1 - did the same for all upcards. This worked as it should, giving me a zero (no win/loss) result.
1. I then set the A sidebet to upcard A downcard X payoff 2.0:
this gave a more or less as expected result (although total win should have mirrored insurance which it did not - about 10% off)
2. If I try to do the same with any other upcard (eg 9) I get negative EV - whearas the results should be identical to the A sidebet.
Any ideas ?
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QFIT
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Set 2 through 6 to 0:0 payoff,and upcard. 7 through ace 2:0 payoff, X upcard.
You should get a negative EV. Now look at where the EV turns positive on the Custom Bonuses screen, set the TC to that count in Side Bet 1, and you should get a positive EV. Just tried it and it looks OK.
You should get a negative EV. Now look at where the EV turns positive on the Custom Bonuses screen, set the TC to that count in Side Bet 1, and you should get a positive EV. Just tried it and it looks OK.
Still no
Not working.
Initially I ran this using UB10 with side bet starting at RC>0.
(just be clear - I had placed all 2-6 payoffs as 0:0. my typo from before). EV positive only at RC ~ 11, which is not right (yes, I have included the starting count).
Just to check I now ran this using HiLo, and the custom side bets are negative up to TC=+6, which is off by 3 or so - should be the same index as for insurance.
I have been through this a dozen times but cannot find any misconfigurations...
Not working.
Initially I ran this using UB10 with side bet starting at RC>0.
(just be clear - I had placed all 2-6 payoffs as 0:0. my typo from before). EV positive only at RC ~ 11, which is not right (yes, I have included the starting count).
Just to check I now ran this using HiLo, and the custom side bets are negative up to TC=+6, which is off by 3 or so - should be the same index as for insurance.
I have been through this a dozen times but cannot find any misconfigurations...
resent it.
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Thanks,
working now.
Another question - are the AJ bonuses cumulative ? (AJ black and AJ suited, for example)
I need to sim AJ pays 2:1 and AJ black suited pays 3:1
- AJ pays 2:1 is simple enough, 5:10 bonus.
- For AJ black suited (ie AcJc or AsJs) I guess I can approximate with either a double bonus on AJ Spades (30:10), or half the bonus on AJ suited (7:15). I just need to know whether the additional 5:10 from AJ will be added on to this or not.
Thanks
D.
Thanks,
working now.
Another question - are the AJ bonuses cumulative ? (AJ black and AJ suited, for example)
I need to sim AJ pays 2:1 and AJ black suited pays 3:1
- AJ pays 2:1 is simple enough, 5:10 bonus.
- For AJ black suited (ie AcJc or AsJs) I guess I can approximate with either a double bonus on AJ Spades (30:10), or half the bonus on AJ suited (7:15). I just need to know whether the additional 5:10 from AJ will be added on to this or not.
Thanks
D.