CVData Problem

[LovinItAll]

[Edit: - Scratch: Figured it out. After messing with it for hours before this post, I revisited the software and have it running properly. An admin can delete this thread. Sorry 'bout that.]


Hey,

Not sure where this belongs, but I'm having an issue with the CVData v.5.5 demo.

I downloaded it yesterday, but whenever I try to load any type of sim (custom or from a template), I get a runtime error (11), Division by Zero.

I've uninstalled/re-installed the app, but I keep getting the same error. If anyone has had a similar problem and has advice, it would be greatly appreciated.

Best ~ L.I.A.

Vista SP1, 32-bit

 

[rrwoods]

Personally I'd rather posts like this have responses with the solution rather than being deleted. Makes it much easier when the next guy who has this problem goes searching for an answer.

 

[LovinItAll]

Personally I'd rather posts like this have responses with the solution rather than being deleted. Makes it much easier when the next guy who has this problem goes searching for an answer.

You got it......

First, this was a user error, not a program error, and I think it was just a bad download.

I downloaded CVData and began to try and use the program without reading or listening to any tutorials or wizards. This is what I did to create the error (still repeateable on my PC if I restore the original 'bad' data file):

- Launched CVData
- Selected 'New', keyed new Sim name, clicked 'Init'
- Received the 'Divide by Zero' error

At that point, whenever I tried to create a new Sim or open a previously created Sim (the app saved the 'bad' Sim), I would get the error. Uninstalling the program doesn't delete the data in x:\ProgramData, so I was going around in circles. Once I uninstalled the app, backed up and then deleted the folder x:\ProgramData\qfit\cvdata, the program worked fine.

For obvious reasons, previously stored data in x:\ProgramData\qfit\cvdata can't be deleted, though I think creating a temporary backup when a user performs an upgrade/reinstall might be nice. The user could then restore/reload the data set after an update/reinstall, or simply start with a clean slate.

With all of that said, I know that the developer(s) spent an enormous amount of time on the app, and I didn't hesitate to purchase it once the error was resolved. The program is very easy to use, and for anyone who wants to create sims, it is well worth the price. In addition, the one email I sent to the support contact on the site after the purchase was answered promptly. It really doesn't get any better than that.

Best ~ L.I.A.

 

[QFIT]

The ProgramData directory is another one of Microsoft's brilliantly idiotic ideas. In Vista, they demanded that all developers rewrite their applications to put data into this directory. Unfortunately, this makes it more difficult for uninstalls when you have a bad download. In Windows 7, they made the problem worse by hiding the directory from the users. Much of this was done after MS backed off the demand, in Win95, that all developers use the registry for program info. Another truly idiotic idea. Every release of Windows, developers have to deal with yet a new, idiotic concept that harms everyone. I dread to see what the next version brings.

I suppose I could take solace in the fact that my "competitors" in the field have given up.

If I were conspiratorial minded, I would think that there is a group of people at MS that sit around a table for the sole purpose of inventing new ways of screwing both developers and users.

--end of rant--

BTW, it's still vastly better than dealing with Apple.

 

[Sonny]

Every release of Windows, developers have to deal with yet a new, idiotic concept that harms everyone. I dread to see what the next version brings.

Are you re-thinking your decision to not have a DOS version yet? :laugh:

-Sonny-

 

[QFIT]

Are you re-thinking your decision to not have a DOS version yet? :laugh:

-Sonny-

Good one. But, I'm not going to my barber to be bled for medical solutions either. Despite the best efforts of some, progress continues its halting path.

 

[LovinItAll]

The ProgramData directory is another one of Microsoft's brilliantly idiotic ideas. In Vista, they demanded that all developers rewrite their applications to put data into this directory. Unfortunately, this makes it more difficult for uninstalls when you have a bad download. In Windows 7, they made the problem worse by hiding the directory from the users. Much of this was done after MS backed off the demand, in Win95, that all developers use the registry for program info. Another truly idiotic idea. Every release of Windows, developers have to deal with yet a new, idiotic concept that harms everyone. I dread to see what the next version brings.

I suppose I could take solace in the fact that my "competitors" in the field have given up.

If I were conspiratorial minded, I would think that there is a group of people at MS that sit around a table for the sole purpose of inventing new ways of screwing both developers and users.....
--end of rant--

.....and using ridiclously huge amounts of drive space to help bolster sales of HDD's (if one were conspiratorial minded, of course).

This isn't a suggestion - and one could call it a bad programming practice and I wouldn't care - but the whole ProgramFiles/ProgramData has always bugged me. By default, we just create a directory under the root (a la 'the good ol' days') and store all of our stuff there. If a user is smart enough to complain, they're smart enough to read the instructions in the dialogue box during the install and click the 'Install In x:\ProgamFiles Folder' box (or wherever). They seldom do, of course. And UAC? WTF ever.

My post wasn't a knock in any way, but I think you probably know that. If something is going to screw up during an installation, it'll happen to me. I spend a lot of time trying to break apps (wasn't trying here), so I know that an error doesn't necessarily reflect the quality of a product given the number of variables that can throw one (bad DL, et. al.).

BTW, it's still vastly better than dealing with Apple.

Their resurgence is more of a PITA than ever, as our clients want iApps now. It's just gross, man. Still, if they'll float the bill......have developers, will travel.

Thanks again for the great program and support.

Best ~ L.I.A.

 

[zengrifter]

The ProgramData directory is another one of Microsoft's brilliantly idiotic ideas. In Vista, they demanded that all developers rewrite their applications to put data into this directory. Unfortunately, this makes it more difficult for uninstalls when you have a bad download. In Windows 7, they made the problem worse by hiding the directory from the users. Much of this was done after MS backed off the demand, in Win95, that all developers use the registry for program info. Another truly idiotic idea. Every release of Windows, developers have to deal with yet a new, idiotic concept that harms everyone. I dread to see what the next version brings.

I suppose I could take solace in the fact that my "competitors" in the field have given up.

If I were conspiratorial minded, I would think that there is a group of people at MS that sit around a table for the sole purpose of inventing new ways of screwing both developers and users.

--end of rant--

BTW, it's still vastly better than dealing with Apple.

I'm holding out for a Linux version.
Now what about the new customer having problem?

 

[zengrifter]

Windows has a special free tool for pulling bad installs, I believe.
Or you could re-load Windows, would that do it QFIT? zg

 

[QFIT]

Windows has a special free tool for pulling bad installs, I believe.
Or you could re-load Windows, would that do it QFIT? zg

Been around for a while because of the poor MS install process. But, it's mostly used for drivers, security software and software that violates standards. Doesn't work with many apps. Reloading Windows is incredibly onerous for many users. I would never advise it unless the system has been seriously damaged. I can step people through the process of fixing install problems when they occur.

 

[QFIT]

Forgot to mention Microsoft’s latest invention. The newly released version of Internet Explorer (IE9) has a new “feature” that makes it very difficult to download any software that is not from a major company -- like Microsoft. I’ve been spending the last few days trying to get through the process that allows people to easily download CV, which starts with a fee (i.e. extortion payment) to prove that I am me, as if it is any of Microsoft’s business. And that’s just the start of the process. I now cannot put up software on my own site without paying a bribe.

 

[Coyote]

Microsoft! The other Evil Empire! :whip: :devil: