Dealer error question

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Thunder

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I had a dealer who inadvertently forgot to check for BJ and ask for insurance. After dealing all the hands and having people make playing decisions, they flip over the card to show BJ. Is it proper procedure to still take everyone's money (nobody doubled or split) I argued to no avail that our bets should not have been taken because we didn't have the chance to insure. To add insult to injury, the count was good at the time, so several additional high cards got burned. Thoughts?
 
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Gamblor

Gamblor

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As you mentioned, you didn't get a chance to insure. I would think a do-over (let everyone keep there bet and move to next hand) is the proper thing to do. Or the dealer should allow you to take insurance, which amounts to the same thing.

Hmm, if you had a stiff hand, and you noticed the dealer didn't check for BJ, a LS would be like an ES, if LS was offered. Wonder what they would have done since you already got half your money back. Would they ask for it back?
 
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tthree

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Ive been at the table were this happened on more than one occasion. Nobody said anything and play continued as usual. Wish I would have spoken up maybe I would have something more in my pocket or to contribute to the conversation.
 
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Zero

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Gamblor said:
Hmm, if you had a stiff hand, and you noticed the dealer didn't check for BJ, a LS would be like an ES, if LS was offered. Wonder what they would have done since you already got half your money back. Would they ask for it back?
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Had (almost) this exact thing happen to me recently. I surrendered my 16 v the dealer's A. After the dealer flipped her T in the hole and stood there stunned and confused for a second, she took everyone's money, except she only took the original bet from the player that had doubled down. She did not ask me to give her the other half of my surrender. She also didn't call the floor. If she had, I wonder if they would've been as generous.

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blackchipjim

blackchipjim

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Can't count how many times this crap happend to me. The bad thing about it was different casinos do things differently as far as corrections. I think the hand is dead and null and no play is declared. I have had it work for and against the players depending on the limit of the table and whose is sitting there. If big bets are out and the dealer screws up the floor kills the hand. Red chippers have been screwed over alot and learn to expect unfair treatment. I would raise a stink if I had a big bet out no matter what and quit the table if they didnt make it right.
 
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Gamblor

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Zero said:
Had (almost) this exact thing happen to me recently. I surrendered my 16 v the dealer's A. After the dealer flipped her T in the hole and stood there stunned and confused for a second, she took everyone's money, except she only took the original bet from the player that had doubled down. She did not ask me to give her the other half of my surrender. She also didn't call the floor. If she had, I wonder if they would've been as generous.

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Would have been cooler if you had a 17, baffle and piss off the ploppies with your surrender!

Yeah, good lesson though, should be on our toes, and point out to dealer to check for blackjack whenever its advantageous to us.
 
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The Chaperone

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Generally in these cases, 21s push and everyone else gets their original bet taken.

I suppose you could argue you would have taken insurance but this seems like a weak argument and 'taking a shot' to me unless you have a BJ or 20 or something. I would only try this if it wasn't a place I planned on playing much. Just my two cents.
 
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alwayssplitaces

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I've had a dealer accidentally expose a ten hole card when showing an ace. The pit boss was called and ruled that everyone can take insurance if they want. Of course everyone took insurance. Someone at the table had 2 queens of hearts that hand and wished he bet the lucky ladies.
 
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