Dealer errors

blackchipjim

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I'm well aware that dealers errors are or can be good for the game you are playing. There is a saturation point where they may do more harm than good to a ap. A few errors here and there is common and does help your game if they are going in your favor. The point where the pit bosses start hanging at your table is bad. If they are on mark to a dealer who screws up all the time the pit will be alerted to table and the other things happing there. blackchipjim
 

HarryKuntz

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blackchipjim said:
I'm well aware that dealers errors are or can be good for the game you are playing. There is a saturation point where they may do more harm than good to a ap. A few errors here and there is common and does help your game if they are going in your favor. The point where the pit bosses start hanging at your table is bad. If they are on mark to a dealer who screws up all the time the pit will be alerted to table and the other things happing there. blackchipjim
If many errors are being made and a pit boss or other floor personnel are watching and correcting all the time, then this can be bad as game play will be much slower. In this situation you don't need to worry about heat any more than normal as they will be more concerned with what the dealer is doing rather than the players. Many dealer errors can be much more expensive too the house than a card counter. If you find a weak or new dealer in this situation, find out when they will be working at a busier time, when floor personnel are likely to have less time to supervise them. Then you can take full advantage.

If you do have a pit boss hanging around the table you should take the opportunity to talk to them, tell them a bad luck story, a joke, make them laugh, ask them playing advice, blah, de-blah, de-blah. The more they like you, the less they'll worry about you in the future.

Another way to take advantage, is to play aggressively at another table in the same pit, while the pit boss is preoccupied with the weak dealer.
 
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matt21

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i would think that a error-making-dealer will NOT create a heat issue for you by virtue of the pit-boss hanging around. whether you notice it or not, they are watching you the tables all the time anyway (in my experience this has been the case).

if you are very careful as to the errors (i.e. to recognise any of those that are not in your favor) then a 'new' dealer should be a big blessing for you and create much more advantage than card-counting.

i was once played with a dealer who was on her 3rd shift out of training - she cut 6 decks to less than 1 deck (85-90% pen) and was playing me heads-up. i was chatting to her throughout the whole shoe to make her feel comfortable, and explained to her that she need not apologise every time she beat me! i made 83 units in 90 minutes and then left wishing her good luck for the rest of her shift.

i think at certain points it is necessary to alert the casino of errors. A dealer once gave me $300 of chips for $200 in cash (i was the first customer for his shift and the casino was very empty) and i let him know - they would have definitely picked up on this mistake sooner or later and that would not have given me a good reputation among the staff!
 

WRX

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I know what you all mean about errors being likely to go unnoticed when the casino's busy. But all the misfits and losers are working graveyard shift, as recent experience proves. That's all I'm saying!

<< A dealer once gave me $300 of chips for $200 in cash (i was the first customer for his shift and the casino was very empty) and i let him know >>


What were you thinking???? Don't pass up these opportunities. Supervision isn't as sharp as you think. And they don't expect you to be that sharp. If the dealer didn't notice the mistake, why would they expect you to have noticed it? Just show them what a good customer you are, and what a pleasure to have around. They'll give you a pass on this sort of thing, and happily save themselves the embarrassment of admitting to their own stupidity.

My attitude about a cashier making an error is different. Cashiers are held personally responsible for the amounts in their drawers.
 
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