I had an incident recently where the dealer thought she busted and payed me and then rest of the table. Then when she reexamined her cards, she realized she had busted. I had already taken the win and stacked it with the rest of my chips. When she wanted it back, I asked her how she could just rewind time and know what my bet was. She said because "she remembered" what the bet was so I decided to finally give it back. If I was already paid, can the casino rightfully ask for it back?
Dealer pays me and then wants it back
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Yes, they can ask for(and get) it back. How did the other players (if any) react to her request? If necessary, they could have played the tape back to see what your bet was. Not that you will be identified as an AP (assuming you are one) by this one action, but remember that you want to blend in with the crowd, not stand out.
Yes, they have a right to ask for the money back, and they can get it any time. You should gladly give them the money back if they ask (mild protest is ok) -- you don't want to be noticed and putting up a fuss will definitely get you noticed.
Always take advantage of dealer errors -- but if they catch their own error, then you must play fair and give it back.
--Mayor
Always take advantage of dealer errors -- but if they catch their own error, then you must play fair and give it back.
--Mayor
If it is a big mistake, leave immediately
Not really the case in your example, but a number of times, I have seen mistakes corrected much later. A friend of mine was playing at a new carney game that was prone to dealer mistakes and the floor asked for him to give back money 3 times in an hour. Each time was based on surveillance calls and was 5-10 minutes (and several hands) after the fact.
The worst case was when a player hit a side bet jackpot at the table next to mine. The relief PC paid him his $10,000 winnings (500:1 payoff on a $20 bet). The player continued to play and 45 minutes later the chief PC came on duty. Relief PC told chief PC about the win. Trouble was that the table had a sign saying that the max payout was limited to $5K. They threatened to call the cops if the guy didn't give back the extra $5K. My advice if you have a big error go your way is to get the h#%$ out of Dodge as soon as possible.
Not really the case in your example, but a number of times, I have seen mistakes corrected much later. A friend of mine was playing at a new carney game that was prone to dealer mistakes and the floor asked for him to give back money 3 times in an hour. Each time was based on surveillance calls and was 5-10 minutes (and several hands) after the fact.
The worst case was when a player hit a side bet jackpot at the table next to mine. The relief PC paid him his $10,000 winnings (500:1 payoff on a $20 bet). The player continued to play and 45 minutes later the chief PC came on duty. Relief PC told chief PC about the win. Trouble was that the table had a sign saying that the max payout was limited to $5K. They threatened to call the cops if the guy didn't give back the extra $5K. My advice if you have a big error go your way is to get the h#%$ out of Dodge as soon as possible.
They can ask for it back. I agree that if its a large mistake; boogey! This past weekend I had a hard 18 with 8 black ih the square vs a dealer's 5 up. The dealer flipped his 10 in the hole and spiked a 3 to push but paid me anyway. Sweet! I booked and cashed the chips later.
I have had at least 2 dealer mistakes that the dealer caught but wouldnt say anything. In each case the dealer figured it was better to risk a call rather than alert the pit critter and get reprimanded.
wong out
I have had at least 2 dealer mistakes that the dealer caught but wouldnt say anything. In each case the dealer figured it was better to risk a call rather than alert the pit critter and get reprimanded.
wong out
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I've had this happen a few times. Mayor is right, that protesting will draw attention, but still, if it were a lot of money I'd stuff the chips down my shorts and dare them to come get them.
A while back this happened to me: the dealer paid my push, picked up the cards, and started dealing the next round before she realized the error. I drew the line there; once you start the next round the last one is history. There was a nasty standoff and staredown between me and the PC for about 10 minutes, which I won, and I left. But this happened long before I was a counter.
A while back this happened to me: the dealer paid my push, picked up the cards, and started dealing the next round before she realized the error. I drew the line there; once you start the next round the last one is history. There was a nasty standoff and staredown between me and the PC for about 10 minutes, which I won, and I left. But this happened long before I was a counter.
Re: If it is a big mistake, leave immediately
The real shitty thing about this is that most ploppies after a win like that will really start betting big money that they would not normally bet. After 45 minutes they could have lost half of that big win and now the casino is asking for the other half!
The real shitty thing about this is that most ploppies after a win like that will really start betting big money that they would not normally bet. After 45 minutes they could have lost half of that big win and now the casino is asking for the other half!
He should have at least gotten his tip back
I think he tipped the dealer a couple hundred based on the erroneous $10K payout. If it was me, I would have demanded that the dealer return my tip since it was based on an incorrect win. Of course, I would have probably stiffed the dealer in the first place, which would be another reason for leaving immediately.
You are right that he started betting multiple black each hand, and had already given back a large portion of the $10K when they grabbed the extra $5K. Come to think of it, the casino could do this on purpose. "Erroneously" payout 4-5X the correct amount to induce the player to bet/tip big. Then "catch" the mistake once the player has lost/tipped the entire correct payout or starts to leave. I wouldn't put it past them.
I think he tipped the dealer a couple hundred based on the erroneous $10K payout. If it was me, I would have demanded that the dealer return my tip since it was based on an incorrect win. Of course, I would have probably stiffed the dealer in the first place, which would be another reason for leaving immediately.
You are right that he started betting multiple black each hand, and had already given back a large portion of the $10K when they grabbed the extra $5K. Come to think of it, the casino could do this on purpose. "Erroneously" payout 4-5X the correct amount to induce the player to bet/tip big. Then "catch" the mistake once the player has lost/tipped the entire correct payout or starts to leave. I wouldn't put it past them.