Dealers Errors

Dyepaintball12

Well-Known Member
Tonight I was playing a non-BJ game with a large advantage when the dealer paid me incorrectly on one of my bets. I was happy and continued on.

A little while later he did the same thing, and then again a few hands later. At this point I was getting slightly uncomfortable about all the mis-pays happening because I figured someone would notice at some point.

About 5 hands after the last mis-pay we are talking about hitting a large bonus, and he looks at the pay-scale and says, "Oh Man, I paid you wrong a couple hands ago. Gotta call the Pit." So he calls the PB, explains, and the PB says "Ok, sadly you need to repay what you were paid and (the dealer) needs to repay the house the tip you played for him."

That was the end of that kind of mis-pay, but on and off he KEPT mispaying me on a different bet (always in my favor).

I know it's not my duty to correct him, but is this going to cause me trouble down the line? I am in fact playing this game with a large edge and don't welcome heat of any kind!
 

johndoe

Well-Known Member
Probably not, but just be prepared for the possibility that they roll the tape back and ask you to repay what what mispaid. That would probably be the extent of it, and I doubt even that would happen.
 

tthree

Banned
Calling the PB over cost the dealer his tip. I wonder how quick he will be to call the PB if a tip was involved in the error next time.

I usually wait a hand or 2 after a mispay and tip the dealer just in case it wasnt an accident. Maybe he will do it at what interval he thinks he can get away with. I am going to give a few tips along the way anyway. The dealer usually can see they come after a big swing in my favor. I think most that mispay on purpose would know that that tip didnt occur in my normal pattern.

I used to play at the worst dive on the board walk (its gone now I think it was the Sands) because their dealers were so incompetent. They would constantly make random mistakes totaling hands. I had to watch close to correct mistakes that werent in my favor. My dad asked why I wanted to play in such a disgusting dive. I think they made enough mistakes to make BS a +EV strategy.

I have a huge conscience. It is uncharacteristic of me to do something like this. I figured the only reason the casino had incompetent dealers was they paid them less. They figured they could make more money underpaying incompetent dealers and taking a hit on payouts. Who am I to question their business model. My tips helped to balance the pay situation for the dealers. Funny how we can rationalize doing the wrong thing even for people who are averse to doing so.
 

Sucker

Well-Known Member
Dyepaintball12 said:
with a large advantage
This is the key. You certainly don't want THIS dealer to get fired (he may be on thin ice anyway, due to the fact that his table loses too often ;) ).You don't even want him to get written up. Another problem that sometimes develops is that they will often pull a dealer off the game & put him somewhere else if the pit (or surveillance) sees him making too many mistakes.

If he gets pulled for making mistakes, you're out of action for that day. If he gets fired, it's even worse for you.

I am a cold blooded killer when it comes to blackjack. I play dirty. I will do ANYTHING within the law to get the money. That said, when the situation you describe comes up; I oftentimes WILL correct the dealer (quietly, we ARE trying to protect this guys' job) in order to preserve the cash cow. When YOU have a dealer like this, you will have to analyze the situation yourself; and carefully decide how to proceed. If it's THAT good of a game, and if there's ANY doubt as to what to do; I would say to err on the side of protecting your dealer. :cool2:
 

alwayssplitaces

Well-Known Member
I had a poker dealer make a large error. I had 88, flopped a set, and went all in on the flop with someone who had AQ and flopped top pair top kicker. The river was a Q and the dealer pushed the pot to the guy with AQ. The queen on the river gave me a boat. I said that I had a full house which beat three queens. The player already started to stack the chips when the floor came and ruled that I won the pot. They had to review the tape to see how many chips he had left over when he went all in since he had me covered. A less observant player would think they lost with 3 8s to 3 Queens and didn't realize the board pairing gave them a boat.
 
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