Dealers know better

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jimmtech

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Ok, my last rant about dealers:

1) Dealers that automatically pass you by, just you assuming you are going to stand - I may have wanted to hit double or split..

2) Sitting at first base, and the dealer's hand and arm block my sight, so he (or she) delivers my requested hit card, and scoops up my whole hand before I even see the (supposed) breaking card!
 
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Kasi

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jimmtech said:
1) Dealers that automatically pass you by, just you assuming you are going to stand - I may have wanted to hit double or split..
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I hate that too. The first time they do it I ask them if they saw me make a hand-signal. Either nicely or not. I don't really care. But they will usually wait after that. They may not like it, and usually don't, giving up control of the speed of the game to you, but they do it. It seems to come into play most often for me if I make a playing strategy deviation.

Don't wait until you get screwed on a play - make the point right away.

Another pet peeve of mine, and I don't know exactly why, is when the dealer pulls the card and holds it in front of him for like 2 seconds so only he can see it and know the outcome 2 seconds before you do and then gives it to you. Just put the card down buddy and we'll look at it together!
 
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aslan

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Kasi said:
I hate that too. The first time they do it I ask them if they saw me make a hand-signal. Either nicely or not. I don't really care. But they will usually wait after that. They may not like it, and usually don't, giving up control of the speed of the game to you, but they do it. It seems to come into play most often for me if I make a playing strategy deviation.

Don't wait until you get screwed on a play - make the point right away.

Another pet peeve of mine, and I don't know exactly why, is when the dealer pulls the card and holds it in front of him for like 2 seconds so only he can see it and know the outcome 2 seconds before you do and then gives it to you. Just put the card down buddy and we'll look at it together!
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I have found it important to not let the dealer set the pace of the game. If it is too fast for me and I go along with it, I always suffer for it. I make mistakes, I lose count. What I do is make a conscious effort to resist the dealer's attempt to push me along. I calming hold myself to my own pace. I have found that the dealer has no choice but to follow my lead. My attitude is, "This is my game. No one is going to dominate the game or me. If anyone is going to dominate, it's going to be me." I don't get nasty. I don't get mad. I just stick to my own pace, sometimes slow and sometimes fast. Don't let them bully you. It's you money and you have the right to go at your own pace within reason.

I have found that when they pass me up it is because I was not paying attention. If you protest they may have to bring the PC over , for example, if you wanted a hit and failed to get it. They don't like to do that and will avoid passing you by in the future.
 
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Kasi

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aslan said:
I have found it important to not let the dealer set the pace of the game. If it is too fast for me and I go along with it, I always suffer for it. I make mistakes, I lose count. What I do is make a conscious effort to resist the dealer's attempt to push me along. I calming hold myself to my own pace. I have found that the dealer has no choice but to follow my lead. My attitude is, "This is my game. No one is going to dominate the game or me. If anyone is going to dominate, it's going to be me." I don't get nasty. I don't get mad. I just stick to my own pace, sometimes slow and sometimes fast. Don't let them bully you. It's you money and you have the right to go at your own pace within reason.
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As usual, someone says it alot better than I do :)
 
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SilentBob420BMFJ

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i like #1, because i hate having to wave my hard 17+, or my soft 19+, etc.. i usually dont wave them to try and get the dealer to pass me up.. if your deviating from BS, then be ready, thats all you have to do, but otherwise, i think its good when dealers pass you up.. sometimes a ploppy will get all super pissed when the dealer passes them up, in which case i sarcastically say to the dealer "ya! whats wrong with you!" and then i let the player know that the dealer passed her up because the right play was the stand.. what i would really like to say tho is "dont take your anger out on the dealer just because you are losing money and/or have a gambling problem, the right play is to stand, and maybe if you learned how to play you wouldnt lose as much money.. bitch"
 
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Frankie

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SilentBob420BMFJ said:
i like #1, because i hate having to wave my hard 17+, or my soft 19+, etc.. i usually dont wave them to try and get the dealer to pass me up..
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I agree. I never split 10s or hit hard 17+, or hard 19+. And it kind of annoys me -- okay maybe it annoys me a lot -- when I am playing heads up with a dealer for hours and she makes me give her a hand signal for my hard 20. If I want to split, I'll have my chips good and ready. Just keep the game moving fast.
 
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Kasi

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SilentBob420BMFJ said:
i like #1, because i hate having to wave my hard 17+, or my soft 19+, etc.. i usually dont wave them to try and get the dealer to pass me up.. if your deviating from BS, then be ready, ...
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It's no big deal of course, and each to his own of course, but sometime you may find yourself in a game where BS may be to not stand on a hard 17 or not stand on all soft 19's and the dealer may not know it.

Or even he mis-adds your cards and goes on by, etc.

I'd just rather not rely on the dealer making decisions for me compared to moving my finger an inch or so lol.

And, while you say just be ready if you are going to vary from a BS play, a fast dealer can pass u by quicker than you can decide if such play is warranted or not.

And I certainly wouldn't get mad at anyone just because they wanted a couple seconds to play their cards the way they wanted to.

I don't know - general question - would it be typical casino policy for a dealer to wait for a hand signal?
 
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shadroch

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Most casinos insist on a hand signal.
You should try to make your signals as ambigious as possible.
Start out by waving your hand palm down when you stay and when you want a hit go knucles down and raise your fingers.
After a few moments,start blurring the difference between the two. At some point,you'll be able to get a hit but if it isn't to your liking you can claim you waved stand. You'll almost always get away with this once.
 
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