Deja vu

aslan

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Were you ever in a positive count and begin losing hand after hand, and something tells you that you will continue to lose hand after hand, and guess what, you do?! I wonder if the subconscious mind sees something that we consciously don't have a clue about. For example, they say the subconscious forgets nothing, so all those sevens and eights and nines and every other card for that matter, it remembers. Could it be possible that your subconscious might actually calculate future expectations based on knowledge of every card that has been played, something like consciously untapped brainpower working behind the scenes to protect us from danger? I know. Hunches are voodoo! Fagettaboutit! But....who knows for sure....I certainly wish I had paid attention to those possible warning beacons in the past, but instead I slavishly put max bet after max bet into the ring depending entirely on the mathematically proven science of card counting. Oh, Long Run,View attachment 6951 where art though when I need you! :laugh:
 

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k_c

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aslan said:
Were you ever in a positive count and begin losing hand after hand, and something tells you that you will continue to lose hand after hand, and guess what, you do?! I wonder if the subconscious mind sees something that we consciously don't have a clue about. For example, they say the subconscious forgets nothing, so all those sevens and eights and nines and every other card for that matter, it remembers. Could it be possible that your subconscious might actually calculate future expectations based on knowledge of every card that has been played, something like consciously untapped brainpower working behind the scenes to protect us from danger? I know. Hunches are voodoo! Fagettaboutit! But....who knows for sure....I certainly wish I had paid attention to those possible warning beacons in the past, but instead I slavishly put max bet after max bet into the ring depending entirely on the mathematically proven science of card counting. Oh, Long Run,View attachment 6951 where art though when I need you! :laugh:
Rainman is the best there ever was and how about Miss Cleo? :joker:
 

aslan

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Dipsy said:
:rolleyes:And you forget about the times when you think you would lose but you ended up winning.
Probably. And there were a number of times when if I lost one more hand I would be close to bust, but I cleaned up on that last hand times two with a blackjack, a triple split and two double downs at max bet. But, d$mn! Isn't that cutting it close? :eek: :laugh:
 

sagefr0g

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aslan said:
Were you ever in a positive count and begin losing hand after hand, and something tells you that you will continue to lose hand after hand, and guess what, you do?! I wonder if the subconscious mind sees something that we consciously don't have a clue about. For example, they say the subconscious forgets nothing, so all those sevens and eights and nines and every other card for that matter, it remembers. Could it be possible that your subconscious might actually calculate future expectations based on knowledge of every card that has been played, something like consciously untapped brainpower working behind the scenes to protect us from danger? I know. Hunches are voodoo! Fagettaboutit! But....who knows for sure....I certainly wish I had paid attention to those possible warning beacons in the past, but instead I slavishly put max bet after max bet into the ring depending entirely on the mathematically proven science of card counting. Oh, Long Run,View attachment 6951 where art though when I need you! :laugh:
yup, in the past i have, but i dunno about that untapped brainpower behind the scenes hunches voodoo stuff.
pretty much anymore when i play blackjack i'm shooting for a goal, wrong as that is and even worse maybe, i could care less how i reach that goal.
it'll be a goal based on expectation and standard deviation. usually as fate would have it, i'm not at the table long. usually not long enough to experience the sort of thing you describe above. my goals for a sitting are usually very modest, as is the expected return, come to think of it.:rolleyes:
what gets to me, that seems to relate to what you describe above, is that one has going into the arena of advantage play, a foreknowledge that the actual advantage plays are often few and far between, as well as an awareness that plenty of those plays are gonna come out loser.
so when i reach the point where i know i'm wanting to call it a night pretty soon, i start getting reticent about making the last few plays that may crop up, sorta thing, this is especially true if i'm pretty good up on the money and less so if i've had a rather mediocre day of it. more often than not, i'll go ahead and make those plays, cause i'll ask myself, ok look dude if this was the start of the day you'd make that play, right? so go ahead and make that play you scarity cat dummy.:laugh::cat::whip:
 

riggler

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aslan,

I don't get to the stores often. And I've only been twice since I was a wannabe. But the last time I went, even though it was a winning trip, all the way home I was thinking, did I assign the reverse numbers to the cards? (And it was a 5 hr trip so I had a lot of time to think about it).

The reason being it seemed like every time the count was high I lost and every time the count was low that I won. I'd up my bet and lose, lose and lose. Then I'd win over and over and over when my bet was low. It just seemed like upside down world.
 

aslan

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sagefr0g said:
yup, in the past i have, but i dunno about that untapped brainpower behind the scenes hunches voodoo stuff.
pretty much anymore when i play blackjack i'm shooting for a goal, wrong as that is and even worse maybe, i could care less how i reach that goal.
it'll be a goal based on expectation and standard deviation. usually as fate would have it, i'm not at the table long. usually not long enough to experience the sort of thing you describe above. my goals for a sitting are usually very modest, as is the expected return, come to think of it.:rolleyes:
what gets to me, that seems to relate to what you describe above, is that one has going into the arena of advantage play, a foreknowledge that the actual advantage plays are often few and far between, as well as an awareness that plenty of those plays are gonna come out loser.
so when i reach the point where i know i'm wanting to call it a night pretty soon, i start getting reticent about making the last few plays that may crop up, sorta thing, this is especially true if i'm pretty good up on the money and less so if i've had a rather mediocre day of it. more often than not, i'll go ahead and make those plays, cause i'll ask myself, ok look dude if this was the start of the day you'd make that play, right? so go ahead and make that play you scarity cat dummy.:laugh::cat::whip:
Well, I wouldn't be quick to label the unconscious mind, Voodoo. It sees everything your eyes see, and it forget nothing. The thing is, how does the conscious mind take advantage of this subconscious knowledge? As for the untapped brainpower of a human being, I have no doubt that it exists. Where do prodigies come from? How does a three-year old kid play beautiful classical music by ear, or a 7-year old child compose great musical symphony? Or the boy who "when he was seven years old ...took six seconds to give the numbers of hours in thirty-eight years, two months, and seven days."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerah_Colburn_(math_prodigy)
 

pooptarts92

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riggler said:
aslan,

I don't get to the stores often. And I've only been twice since I was a wannabe. But the last time I went, even though it was a winning trip, all the way home I was thinking, did I assign the reverse numbers to the cards? (And it was a 5 hr trip so I had a lot of time to think about it).

The reason being it seemed like every time the count was high I lost and every time the count was low that I won. I'd up my bet and lose, lose and lose. Then I'd win over and over and over when my bet was low. It just seemed like upside down world.
My buddy and I have lots of trips like these, we call it a backwards day lol. Win most of our min bets and lose most of our max bets.
 

blackchipjim

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feelings

Yes it's that feeling you get when first sit down on the titanic. It does go in cycles as far as I'm concerned. Some times you eat the bear(variance) sometimes it eats you.:laugh:
 

aslan

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blackchipjim said:
Some times you eat the bear(variance) sometimes it eats you.:laugh:
I like that. Maybe that phrase will help me grin and bear it. :grin::) But we absolutely must eat more bear than he eats of us or we're doomed for sure. :eek:
 

sagefr0g

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aslan said:
Well, I wouldn't be quick to label the unconscious mind, Voodoo. It sees everything your eyes see, and it forget nothing. The thing is, how does the conscious mind take advantage of this subconscious knowledge? As for the untapped brainpower of a human being, I have no doubt that it exists. Where do prodigies come from? How does a three-year old kid play beautiful classical music by ear, or a 7-year old child compose great musical symphony? Or the boy who "when he was seven years old ...took six seconds to give the numbers of hours in thirty-eight years, two months, and seven days."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerah_Colburn_(math_prodigy)
yeah maybe so.
i remember something about the guy in this flic doing ok on his first blackjack game: (Dead link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2351172331453380070#)
splits sevens against a ten, gets another seven, splits again, ends up with three twenty-ones.:rolleyes:
 

blackchipjim

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reading the deck

Out on the proverbial limb here again with this next statement. I can sometimes read the deck and how the cards are being dealt and to whom. It does take certain conditions to be present some of which I cannot really describe. Before someone lights the fire to burn the heretic at the stake hear me out.It can't be a raucious table with piss and moaners present nor total silence at it either. The best is three players inclulding yourself that just want to play a game with light banter maybe. Once you read the shoe or shoes you can get a pretty good idea how the table is going to pan out. It's not a something you can teach another player it's just either there or not. I know playing like this is in the right section of the forum.:grin:
 

aslan

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sagefr0g said:
yeah maybe so.
i remember something about the guy in this flic doing ok on his first blackjack game: (Dead link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2351172331453380070#)
splits sevens against a ten, gets another seven, splits again, ends up with three twenty-ones.:rolleyes:
Yeah, wasn't that incredible? There's that subconscious mind working overtime, or is it? I mean, he is a certified prodigy. I have to believe there is something to it. Even he didn't know. I wonder if these guys even know how they calculate complex powers and multiplications is a couple of seconds? Or figure out whether huge numbers are prime and if not what the multiplier is in six seconds?
 

golfnut101

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aslan said:
Were you ever in a positive count and begin losing hand after hand, and something tells you that you will continue to lose hand after hand, and guess what, you do?!
Glad Im not only one here, haha. Happened Sun night to me. Monster count in 6d game. Spread to 2 hands. Just under 2 decks remaining. First card a seven, 2nd a 6. Are you kidding me ??? But, the whole shoe was going like this. I get a four with the seven, and a five with the six vs dealer eight ! Despite this, with big bets out, I knew, just knew, I was done. Was slumped over as I received an Ace and a three. Knew dealer was gonna pull paint. Do I need to go any further ? Just knew it...
 

aslan

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golfnut101 said:
Glad Im not only one here, haha. Happened Sun night to me. Monster count in 6d game. Spread to 2 hands. Just under 2 decks remaining. First card a seven, 2nd a 6. Are you kidding me ??? But, the whole shoe was going like this. I get a four with the seven, and a five with the six vs dealer eight ! Despite this, with big bets out, I knew, just knew, I was done. Was slumped over as I received an Ace and a three. Knew dealer was gonna pull paint. Do I need to go any further ? Just knew it...
It's crazy...but sometimes you just know it. Saturday I must have lost 15 hands out of 18 at max bet. Today, I was almost bust, when suddenly I started hitting good cards and pulls at max bet and turned it around from -750 to +$800 in a few minutes.
 

Nynefingers

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aslan said:
Today, I was almost bust, when suddenly I started hitting good cards and pulls at max bet and turned it around from -750 to +$800 in a few minutes.
You've mentioned this twice in this thread. Do you play blackjack with a small enough amount of money in your pocket that you have the potential to lose it all? If the likelyhood of that is small, I suppose it isn't hurting you too too bad, but in my opinion there is no excuse for running out of money at the table in a monster count. Just a thought :cool:
 

aslan

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Nynefingers said:
You've mentioned this twice in this thread. Do you play blackjack with a small enough amount of money in your pocket that you have the potential to lose it all? If the likelyhood of that is small, I suppose it isn't hurting you too too bad, but in my opinion there is no excuse for running out of money at the table in a monster count. Just a thought :cool:
I had decided to pull up at $1,000 for whatever reason....but I consider it all one continuous game...
 
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