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How could you be so stupid as to jump a bet from $5 to $40, and on a TC of only +2, no less (not that that matters)? What earthly sense does that make?
If you're going to believe the dopes who tell you that, when you play for small stakes, you don't need any cover at all, you will have the same thing happen to you repeatedly. If a place thinks you're counting, it doesn't matter if you're betting $500 or $5; eventually, they're going to throw you out. The only variable is how long it takes. In this casino, you found out that it took 30 seconds.
Don't be dumb.
Don
If you're going to believe the dopes who tell you that, when you play for small stakes, you don't need any cover at all, you will have the same thing happen to you repeatedly. If a place thinks you're counting, it doesn't matter if you're betting $500 or $5; eventually, they're going to throw you out. The only variable is how long it takes. In this casino, you found out that it took 30 seconds.
Don't be dumb.
Don
Hell'nBack
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Stop believing false rumors is a good start.
Hell'nBack
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The one about 75% penetration.
But I would have rejected this game.
But I would have rejected this game.
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Just like some countries, some casinos are shit holes.
Were there any other tables with players? if so, I would have checked out the cut on those first, before sitting down. If I did sit down and saw such a poor cut. I would have gotten up and left. It was worse to jump your bet than to just pick up and leave. Also, if you saw someone following you out to your car, he was probably there to get your license place for a database entry. I would have just kept on walking. Walk to a nearby hotel or restaurant, hang out there for a bit, then come back and get your car. or if you were with someone, have them meet you off-site, and they come and get your car.
Were there any other tables with players? if so, I would have checked out the cut on those first, before sitting down. If I did sit down and saw such a poor cut. I would have gotten up and left. It was worse to jump your bet than to just pick up and leave. Also, if you saw someone following you out to your car, he was probably there to get your license place for a database entry. I would have just kept on walking. Walk to a nearby hotel or restaurant, hang out there for a bit, then come back and get your car. or if you were with someone, have them meet you off-site, and they come and get your car.
stopgambling
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They are told to look for that . it was not much of an issue if it wasn't so . It is almost universal thing to look for . There are people that do that but it is a rare thing. You need protect your Identity and be aware of these type of dealers. i used to play a similar style with some places , they don't act . I was able to play quite a few places just as aggressive but nowadays no way. later on i used some decent covers and spread high. Nowadays Bj is crap. still possible but damn is it heaty . If i am playing red , I DON'T GIVE A CRAP . WHY SHOULD I! IT IS SHIT $$$ , probably $20 / hour at most . Don't forget it is not like a job what is low variance and pretty much a guarantee without needing a bankroll. It is a dilemma . try to build from a small bank or come back when i have a decent bank.
Hell'nBack
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CBJN! Haha!
ZenKinG
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You should've just trolled them and treat them like the idiots that they are. I mean how pathetic are these people that work in management as well as the drone dealers who do what they're told no matter if it's immoral just for a paycheck? "OH MY GOD A 1.5% EDGE AT 2X200 HE'S GONNA BRING THE HOUSE DOWN!! GOD FORBID HE JUMPS HIS BET OH NOOO CALL THE POLICE, GET HIS FINGERPRINTS, FIND HIS CAR, GET HIS LICENSE PLATE, I THINK IM GONNA FAINT!"
What you should've done after the dealer did what he did is tell the dealer and pit boss if surveillance wants you to smile because you will do that for them. Then you should've said if they want your social security number as well as your birth certificate and passport. Then simply look up at the camera, wave to them and say cheese. When you went out to your car you should've waved to him and told him to come faster or bring the car over to the guy who followed you and made sure he got as close as possible to write everything down. After all this is done, simply keep coming back each day, rinse and repeat. Vegas can't do anything to you other than intimidate you with lies, which is a common theme in this corrupt country with cops as well. Know the law better than them and in general or you will be eaten alive in this corrupt country as well as anywhere in the world. Vegas can ask you to leave each and every time and that's it. Just don't be a 'disturbance' or 'disorderly' and keep your body language polite for the camera so they can't say you were causing trouble. Keep your arms by your side and just verbally troll them, since the floor has no audio.
All this is all irrelevant anyway because vegas is rigged and run by the mob. There's no transparency for a reason and not one person has yet to give me a reason why the cards come pre-shuffled. ASM's can also be programmed at will and you will never know if they did or not before you play.
There's a reason why every counter that comes here fails. Not one counter has won here successfully over a significant sample size and nothing can be proven that they did. I wouldn't be surprised if the people that claim they won money in vegas over any significant amount of sample size are simply casino shills because we all know the casino industry is ridiculous stupid that they would actually stoop to that level and make fake ID's on the forum as well as fake documentaries.
What you should've done after the dealer did what he did is tell the dealer and pit boss if surveillance wants you to smile because you will do that for them. Then you should've said if they want your social security number as well as your birth certificate and passport. Then simply look up at the camera, wave to them and say cheese. When you went out to your car you should've waved to him and told him to come faster or bring the car over to the guy who followed you and made sure he got as close as possible to write everything down. After all this is done, simply keep coming back each day, rinse and repeat. Vegas can't do anything to you other than intimidate you with lies, which is a common theme in this corrupt country with cops as well. Know the law better than them and in general or you will be eaten alive in this corrupt country as well as anywhere in the world. Vegas can ask you to leave each and every time and that's it. Just don't be a 'disturbance' or 'disorderly' and keep your body language polite for the camera so they can't say you were causing trouble. Keep your arms by your side and just verbally troll them, since the floor has no audio.
All this is all irrelevant anyway because vegas is rigged and run by the mob. There's no transparency for a reason and not one person has yet to give me a reason why the cards come pre-shuffled. ASM's can also be programmed at will and you will never know if they did or not before you play.
There's a reason why every counter that comes here fails. Not one counter has won here successfully over a significant sample size and nothing can be proven that they did. I wouldn't be surprised if the people that claim they won money in vegas over any significant amount of sample size are simply casino shills because we all know the casino industry is ridiculous stupid that they would actually stoop to that level and make fake ID's on the forum as well as fake documentaries.
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JohnCrover
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Why do you still play blackjack if you're sure it's rigged?ZenKinG said:
JohnCrover
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Right, because it's going to be hard to make a case when you're saying something along the lines of "i'm only up 40 thousand but I should be up 70 thousand, I suspect foul play."ZenKinG said:
Keep us posted on the lawsuit if it does fly though.
This was a rather entertaining story.
“How do you explain such a large jump?”
Answer: “Why do I have to explain it?”
“I’m going to shuffle up.”
Response: “Well I came here to play cards and not watch a shuffle fest, so if you’re gonna deal like this you can forget about my business and anyone else’s who I will talk to.”
“You’re not gonna get away with that here.”
Response: “And what is “that” exactly?”
“How do you explain such a large jump?”
Answer: “Why do I have to explain it?”
“I’m going to shuffle up.”
Response: “Well I came here to play cards and not watch a shuffle fest, so if you’re gonna deal like this you can forget about my business and anyone else’s who I will talk to.”
“You’re not gonna get away with that here.”
Response: “And what is “that” exactly?”
JohnCrover
Banned
This reminds me of the first time I took my card counting skills to a casino. I got backed off spreading 5-60 dollars after about 1 hour of play and not even getting my max bet out there 
I think my max bet totaled about 30 dollars. LOL. Needless to say, I was making some rookie mistakes but what a sweat shop. XD Never have ran in to anywhere that sweaty since then.
I think my max bet totaled about 30 dollars. LOL. Needless to say, I was making some rookie mistakes but what a sweat shop. XD Never have ran in to anywhere that sweaty since then.