Do casinos share backoff info?

[cyclist]

I was in a non-Vegas area playing this weekend and was backed off at one of the stores. The next day it seemed that every casino in the area knew who I was and had my picture, all I had to do was sit down and a blackjack table anywhere and 10 min later someone was down from upstairs to back me off.

I am curious, is this common? These stores were all with different owners and non-affiliated. Beyond does anyone think this will extend beyond the area I was in to other places such as Vegas?

Thanks for your help.

 

[HockeXpert]

I was in a non-Vegas area playing this weekend and was backed off at one of the stores. The next day it seemed that every casino in the area knew who I was and had my picture, all I had to do was sit down and a blackjack table anywhere and 10 min later someone was down from upstairs to back me off.

I am curious, is this common? These stores were all with different owners and non-affiliated. Beyond does anyone think this will extend beyond the area I was in to other places such as Vegas?

Thanks for your help.

You got "flyered". Your picture was plastered on every pb's podium. Common in towns with many stores. Slight change in appearance may help if this happens in the future.

 

[aslan]

I was in a non-Vegas area playing this weekend and was backed off at one of the stores. The next day it seemed that every casino in the area knew who I was and had my picture, all I had to do was sit down and a blackjack table anywhere and 10 min later someone was down from upstairs to back me off.

I am curious, is this common? These stores were all with different owners and non-affiliated. Beyond does anyone think this will extend beyond the area I was in to other places such as Vegas?

Thanks for your help.

Stop wearing that red and black-checkered flannel shirt. :laugh: It must be an eerie feeling to suddenly become so popular. Good luck in slipping back under the radar.

 

[Sharky]

yes, casinos share a db w/ other, non-affiliated, casinos and the law...check out this exert a colleague recently sent me regarding security at a small casino in Pittsburg:

The state requires that surveillance cameras cover all entrances and exits to the casino floor, count room and casino cage; all gaming operations; all ATMs and bill-breaking machines; and the movement of cash boxes.

In addition, the surveillance crew uses radios to stay in touch with the casino security force, the Gaming Control Board's casino compliance representatives and the state police stationed on-site.

"We're their eyes and ears up here," said Quigley, who has seen technology evolve from the days when the only way to get an overhead view of the floor was to station security officers on catwalks hidden above the ceiling.

He said officials on the floor might request a close look at the high roller area or a suspected "shot-taker" who tries to bend the rules.

The surveillance staff has databases of suspected cheaters, problem gamblers who have put themselves on the state's self-exclusion list and "skill players," including blackjack card counters.

Casinos can be fined for allowing someone on the self-exclusion list to gamble.

Using facial recognition software, the crew's computers can get measurements of a player's face -- the distance between the eyes, for example -- and instantly compare those with people in the database. The databases come from law enforcement agencies and other casinos.

The Rivers' file on a well-known card counter included a note that he had been seen in an Atlantic City casino a few days earlier.

Casinos watch for high-betting card-counters because they're perceived as a threat to the bottom line. Card counters mentally track the ratio of high-value cards to low-value cards as they are dealt. When the deck gets rich in high-value cards, the advantage shifts to the player and a card counter increases his bet.

"It's not illegal to count cards. You can't have electronic devices," Quigley said. "We have the right (to say) 'you're welcome in our establishment, just don't play blackjack. Go play dice.'"

Other anti-counter tactics include limiting how much the player can bet. Quigley said skill players get the message quickly and move on.

Read more: Casino surveillance theme: 'I'll be watching you' - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ae/gambling/s_734644.html#ixzz1LCnjF9Nd


OK, which one of you kats were in AC a few days ago?

 

[HockeXpert]

The Rivers' file on a well-known card counter included a note that he had been seen in an Atlantic City casino a few days earlier.

Ken Uston strikes again! Little did Ken know the trouble he would cause when he fought for his own cause in NJ. Sure they let you play guns blazing and don't back you off or worse but then when you move on to another location, you're wearing a big sign that says "cc" and can't even walk in the door. Ken must be turning over in his grave with the wretched conditions that dominate today.

Wasn't me in AC. Just wanted to make that clear.:laugh:

 

[HockeXpert]

Stop wearing that red and black-checkered flannel shirt. :laugh: It must be an eerie feeling to suddenly become so popular. Good luck in slipping back under the radar.

Maybe it was cyclist's cycling shorts that gave her away?

 

[aslan]

Maybe it was cyclist's cycling shorts that gave her away?

That would do it! :laugh:

 

[exgriffinman]

I was in a non-Vegas area playing this weekend and was backed off at one of the stores. The next day it seemed that every casino in the area knew who I was and had my picture, all I had to do was sit down and a blackjack table anywhere and 10 min later someone was down from upstairs to back me off.

I am curious, is this common? These stores were all with different owners and non-affiliated. Beyond does anyone think this will extend beyond the area I was in to other places such as Vegas?

Thanks for your help.

There seems to be a little mis-information on this thread but quite simply you were put out on SIN, Surveillance information network. This is a comglomerate of casino surveillance departments that share information with each other digitally. It does extend beyond Vegas, but hopefully be forgotten in a few weeks.

 

[cyclist]

Thanks for all the info guys.

I don't think it was the cycling shorts that got me, trust me, you wouldn't be that excited to see me in mine

It was a really eerie feeling. I don't feel like I have ever gotten any heat there before and all of a sudden everyone knows me, even places I had never been before and was playing unrated at. I wasn't even being that aggressive.

Mostly I just want to figure out if I can go other places in the future or if I am gonna get bounced every time I sit down at a table anywhere from now on. I guess there's really only one way to find out.

Thanks again!

 

[Machinist]

Maybe it was cyclist's cycling shorts that gave her away?

SWEET Jesus!!!!!!!! Come home to daddy!!!!!

Mac

 

[HockeXpert]

Mostly I just want to figure out if I can go other places in the future or if I am gonna get bounced every time I sit down at a table anywhere from now on. I guess there's really only one way to find out.

IMO, unless you were betting purple +, you will be a distant memory especially if you travel to another city. The circumstance you originally posted is usually very localized and very spur of the moment. You may want to stay away from that city for a month or two depending on how memorable you are.

 

[cyclist]

IMO, unless you were betting purple +, you will be a distant memory especially if you travel to another city. The circumstance you originally posted is usually very localized and very spur of the moment. You may want to stay away from that city for a month or two depending on how memorable you are.

That's what I was hoping. Definitely not purple, green/black.

 

[Sharky]

SWEET Jesus!!!!!!!! Come home to daddy!!!!!

Mac

ok entrepreneurs, great idea for gym...i could ride behind that for hours on end

 

[Dyepaintball12]

I was playing in the Midwest and was backed off (sort of) at a riverboat and then produced to hit the boat 5 minutes away with the same aggressive spreading and within 30 minutes the PB was talking to the shift and I literally heard the PB say:

"Who is that?"

Shift: "Oh that's (my name). Known advantage player."

He said it loud enough for me to hear so I grabbed the chips and hit the door.

An hour later I hit a large chain down the street and played 5+ hours no prob.

I think the little casinos stick together.

 

[Coyote]

I was playing in the Midwest and was backed off (sort of) at a riverboat and then produced to hit the boat 5 minutes away with the same aggressive spreading and within 30 minutes the PB was talking to the shift and I literally heard the PB say:

"Who is that?"

Shift: "Oh that's (my name). Known advantage player."

He said it loud enough for me to hear so I grabbed the chips and hit the door.

An hour later I hit a large chain down the street and played 5+ hours no prob.

I think the little casinos stick together.

So is it time to increase your camo Dye? Or, is it time to take an extended break from the casinos that stick together.

You really don't have to answer. I know what I would be doing. (see above post by HockeXpert! LOL :grin: )

 

[Dyepaintball12]

So is it time to increase your camo Dye? Or, is it time to take an extended break from the casinos that stick together.

You really don't have to answer. I know what I would be doing. (see above post by HockeXpert! LOL :grin: )

I'm a master of disguise. I just got a new ID made that said my name was "Jason, Kewl" and it seems to be working just fine.

 

[zoomie]

I'm a master of disguise. I just got a new ID made that said my name was "Jason, Kewl" and it seems to be working just fine.

Sheesh, I have one of those too! :laugh::laugh::laugh: