Double Exposure 21

WABJ11

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I have to imagine that this game can be beaten at counting. Even with BJ's paying even money it would seem that seeing the hole card of the dealer can overcome this. Is there more information available on this game?
 

MEDITANK

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The big thing with this game, in high counts, especially playing heads up, is when you and the dealer are both dealt 20's hand after hand, you will lose all of them. pushes lose.
 

WABJ11

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MEDITANK said:
The big thing with this game, in high counts, especially playing heads up, is when you and the dealer are both dealt 20's hand after hand, you will lose all of them. pushes lose.
Yeah I forgot about that when I typed up the post. That rule does make the game unbeatable, im sure.
 

zengrifter

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WABJ11 said:
Yeah I forgot about that when I typed up the post. That rule does make the game unbeatable, im sure.
On the contrary. It requires a different strategy, but the hiLo count is much more volatile in DoubEx. It can be quite beatable by counting, subject to the same consideration of rule variations, penetration, etc. zg
 

WABJ11

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zengrifter said:
On the contrary. It requires a different strategy, but the hiLo count is much more volatile in DoubEx. It can be quite beatable by counting, subject to the same consideration of rule variations, penetration, etc. zg
hmmm...does anyone write about this game?

It would be nice to know how to beat it because a cruise line I go on offers the game. The regular 21 tables all have CSM's! :(
But the Double Exposure game is a shoe game.
 

Kasi

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MEDITANK said:
The big thing with this game, in high counts, especially playing heads up, is when you and the dealer are both dealt 20's hand after hand, you will lose all of them. pushes lose.
Well maybe once in a while u'll catch the Ace?

Anyway, I was just wondering why Hi-lo would be more volatile - just because u see one more card? Ok I guess u mean a larger spread?

But, beyond that, and never having read those books ZG recommended, do all the cards have the same value as they do in reg BJ? I mean, despite all the rule changes and BS changes, u'd have to bet a little differently maybe? And index numbers would change, maybe alot?

Just wondering out loud - no big deal.
 

zengrifter

Banned
Kasi said:
Well maybe once in a while u'll catch the Ace?

Anyway, I was just wondering why Hi-lo would be more volatile - just because u see one more card? Ok I guess u mean a larger spread?

But, beyond that, and never having read those books ZG recommended, do all the cards have the same value as they do in reg BJ? I mean, despite all the rule changes and BS changes, u'd have to bet a little differently maybe? And index numbers would change, maybe alot?

Just wondering out loud - no big deal.
Yes, index#s and basic strategy is much different, whole different game. More volatile because the count causes greater +/- gain than regular BJ. zg
 

Kasi

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zengrifter said:
Yes, index#s and basic strategy is much different, whole different game. More volatile because the count causes greater +/- gain than regular BJ. zg
Thx.

So I guess ur saying a TC+2 is worth more in this game than "regular" BJ?

Anyway, guess, being the wimp I am, I don't think I'd play it at all without knowing how a standard ramp and roll might be effected by playing the game.

Do those books lay out a betting system using traditional Hi-Lo?
 

moo321

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In general, double exposure is affected a lot more by the count than other games. The edge off the top is worse, but a good count is generally a bigger advantage. You also have some fun situations that come up, like when the dealer shows a 16 and you have a +5 TC and split tens to as many places as they allow with a max bet out. Side counting aces is worth it because playing efficiency matters a lot more.
 
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