Easy OPP

[aslan]

Is anyone familiar with the Easy OPP method? I'm new to BJ and stumbled across this method and was impressed with how easy it is to use. It appears to be a good way for beginners to get their feet wet. Is it worth the trouble or should even the beginner learn one of the more difficult (relatively speaking) systems right from the start?

 

[zengrifter]

Is anyone familiar with the Easy OPP method? I'm new to BJ and stumbled across this method and was impressed with how easy it is to use. It appears to be a good way for beginners to get their feet wet. Is it worth the trouble or should even the beginner learn one of the more difficult (relatively speaking) systems right from the start?

OPP is not worth the trouble, learn KO. zg

 

[EasyRhino]

The general vibe on the super-easy counts (OPP, Speed Count, Ace/5 front count) is that they required such large big bets, for such a modest edge, that they are little better than betting big money on an even coin flip. All this will result in is your bankroll going on a wild ride that eventually end in a bust during a run of bad luck (unless the bankroll is HUGE).

A system like KO or Red 7 or KISS is pretty easy if even I can do it. I haven't tried the other counts, but from their descriptions, they don't sound much easier.

 

[Mimosine]

A system like KO or Red 7 or KISS is pretty easy if even I can do it. I haven't tried the other counts, but from their descriptions, they don't sound much easier.

As others have said, go with one of these other counts. They aren't as complicated as you may think, but the rewards are significant. The 3 mentioned above are all of the same complexity (roughly) with the same reward (roughly).

also, at least with KO (which I use) there are several methods of employing it. One of the easiest is by using KO "Rookie" where you increase your bet from 1X to say 5X at one specific count. No other plays are employed (no indexes, no insurance, etc and no need to ramp your bet 1 unit at a time), when you hit a specific count you increase your bets to the 5X bet. This really simple aplication gives you the edge and cuts down on the other mental gymnastics at more advanced stages/counts.

I'm sure that these other systems (I know KISS has 3 stages, though i don't know all the details off the top of my head) have beginner and advanced applications. But in my opinion it is better to start off with a complete system and apply the parts you feel comfortable with rather than start off with a severly limited one that may leave you disappointed in the long run, or even worse give you the false sense of having a solid/consistent advantage!

 

[aslan]

Many thanks!

OPP is not worth the trouble, learn KO. zg

Thank you. I will take your adivce and save myself some grief. BTW, did you advise KO because it is relatively easy to learn? Where should I set my sights for the long-run? That is, what would be the system I should aspire to working my way up to, assuming it may take many, many hours to learn a really first class system. Also, what would be the differential gained between KO and that premier system?

 

[Renzey]

Asian -- With card counting systems, as you move up the ladder, the required effort goes up much faster than the increased return. Relatively easy-to-learn but competent systems like KO, KISS or Red 7 require perhaps one third to half the effort of the premiere systems such as Wong Halves, Zen or Mentor, but yield 80% or 90% of the return. It depends upon how passionate and zealous you become about blackjack.