Ever observed cheating dealers?

[AnIrishmannot2brite]

OK we all know that the new player, after sustaining a loss tends to "blame the dealer" when he drops a lot of hands in a row. Or dumps his whole bankroll in one to two shoes.

I'm not among that category. Nor quite brand new either. I did however observe a statistical rarity last night. Extreme example of negative variance. Fortunately I was minimum bidding the game and only dropped small change.

Here's what happened: i join a table with six decks and play heads up with an extremely fast dealer. A stout latino man of about forty years old. I figure it's good practice to keep up this "mucho rapido" dealer. Well "Speedy Gonzales" is not only blindingly fast but the first fourteen out of fifteen of his up cards are ten or ace. Statistically possible but still very rare. The kind of thing that might happen once a day if i played all day long. I'm not exaggerating either like most players do "Oh well shoot the house always cheats" wasn't my thought pattern at all.

Well naturally I'm pissed and declare to the dealer: "Nothing personal pal but I'm not going to play a table where the dealer is always showing an ace or ten". I get up and leave to see how Sharon is doing with her video poker. She's on fire and making really good money for a machine played game.

Then i return thinking that at least another dealer at the six deck table will be a psychological improvement. Give me a chance of renewing a more positive attitude. Besides I'm already holding a good profit from another casino we visited earlier in the day..

Sure enough Speedy Gonzales the wicked dealer is gone. A very nice woman of about sixty or so has taken his place. We chat and hit it off well. I start winning some and quickly replenish seventy five bucks I dropped earlier.

As the night rolls on I continue to make decent profits and minimal losses and pull ahead well. At least five other dealers come and go including the nice female dealer who reversed my good fortune. However i never see "Speedy" again.

How to interpret this?

My questions:

Has anyone ever met a dishonest dealer?

If there was some cheating going on why would they attempt to fleece a first time patron who doesn't exactly looked dressed as a high roller?

Why would this man leave for the night SOON after I bitched about his constant pulling of ten and ace up cards?

Since the shoe was recently shuffled but done prior to my entrance is it possible that it could have been rigged to favor the dealer? Things like putting first card (mine) a four. then the second third and fourth cards ten assuring a dealer twenty against a stiff fourteen?

I'm not paranoid and don't actually think it;s likely this could happen in a casino on a regular basis. However we have the ingredients of:

1. Very fast dealer with exceptional skill. Easy for him to pull tricks I'm unaware of.

2. Statistically very rare issuance of high dealer up cards 14 out of the first fifteen hands.

3. Dealer leaves for the night soon after my complaint is registered.

I assume the tables are not only kept on camera but an audio recording is going on too.


In any case i will always insist upon a new shuffle whenever playing heads up. Coming into a new table alone. The one I played clearly was unplayed as the cut card was way back and only the burn card was in the tray.

 

[SilentBob420BMFJ]

OK we all know that the new player, after sustaining a loss tends to "blame the dealer" when he drops a lot of hands in a row. Or dumps his whole bankroll in one to two shoes.

I'm not among that category. Nor quite brand new either. I did however observe a statistical rarity last night. Extreme example of negative variance. Fortunately I was minimum bidding the game and only dropped small change.

Here's what happened: i join a table with six decks and play heads up with an extremely fast dealer. A stout latino man of about forty years old. I figure it's good practice to keep up this "mucho rapido" dealer. Well "Speedy Gonzales" is not only blindingly fast but the first fourteen out of fifteen of his up cards are ten or ace. Statistically possible but still very rare. The kind of thing that might happen once a day if i played all day long. I'm not exaggerating either like most players do "Oh well shoot the house always cheats" wasn't my thought pattern at all.

Well naturally I'm pissed and declare to the dealer: "Nothing personal pal but I'm not going to play a table where the dealer is always showing an ace or ten". I get up and leave to see how Sharon is doing with her video poker. She's on fire and making really good money for a machine played game.

Then i return thinking that at least another dealer at the six deck table will be a psychological improvement. Give me a chance of renewing a more positive attitude. Besides I'm already holding a good profit from another casino we visited earlier in the day..

Sure enough Speedy Gonzales the wicked dealer is gone. A very nice woman of about sixty or so has taken his place. We chat and hit it off well. I start winning some and quickly replenish seventy five bucks I dropped earlier.

As the night rolls on I continue to make decent profits and minimal losses and pull ahead well. At least five other dealers come and go including the nice female dealer who reversed my good fortune. However i never see "Speedy" again.

How to interpret this?

My questions:

Has anyone ever met a dishonest dealer?

If there was some cheating going on why would they attempt to fleece a first time patron who doesn't exactly looked dressed as a high roller?

Why would this man leave for the night SOON after I bitched about his constant pulling of ten and ace up cards?

Since the shoe was recently shuffled but done prior to my entrance is it possible that it could have been rigged to favor the dealer? Things like putting first card (mine) a four. then the second third and fourth cards ten assuring a dealer twenty against a stiff fourteen?

I'm not paranoid and don't actually think it;s likely this could happen in a casino on a regular basis. However we have the ingredients of:

1. Very fast dealer with exceptional skill. Easy for him to pull tricks I'm unaware of.

2. Statistically very rare issuance of high dealer up cards 14 out of the first fifteen hands.

3. Dealer leaves for the night soon after my complaint is registered.

I assume the tables are not only kept on camera but an audio recording is going on too.


In any case i will always insist upon a new shuffle whenever playing heads up. Coming into a new table alone. The one I played clearly was unplayed as the cut card was way back and only the burn card was in the tray.

i believe nothing is wrong and it has to do with the speed of the dealer.. im sure every1 will agree that a fast dealer that wins 15 out of 17 hands will clear a table faster than a slow dealer who wins 19 out of 21 hands.. something about the bam bam bam bam money gone, have a nice day, bye bye, compared to the slow "damn, wins again"

 

[AnIrishmannot2brite]

i believe nothing is wrong and it has to do with the speed of the dealer.. im sure every1 will agree that a fast dealer that wins 15 out of 17 hands will clear a table faster than a slow dealer who wins 19 out of 21 hands.. something about the bam bam bam bam money gone, have a nice day, bye bye, compared to the slow "damn, wins again"

Well surely there could be a psychological element. I'm rarely as disturbed when a chick hottie dealer takes me for a couple hundred over a couple shoes. But if a shaved bald male dealer with multiple tattoos gets me for even thirty bucks i decide he's "evil" and try my luck elsewhere.

I'm sure other guys feel the same way.

Never the less i think that it is careful to observe how a dealer spreads his cards. You can also judge people by their face. Does he/she "look" honest?

Facial appearances count. Did Nixon look honest? No he didn't and he certainly was a crook.

And of course the reverse can be true. The most innocent looking girl can be a druggie, stealing dope fiend.

But the general rule is that people often are what they appear to be.