Everyone is a Pro

[rollem411]

Thought I would just share a little bit of my night at AC last night:

Went down for my buddies birthday so I was drinking for the most part, but I can count while drinking so its good cover. When I get there the tables were jammed with 25$ min. I backcount a little bit and play a few hands end up losing about $100 after a few rounds. Off to the bar.

Start strolling around again and find myself backcounting a $50 min. table. Count hits about TC +4 or so, so I sit down and get told NMS entry. I figure I will do anything to get a stab at a + count so I ask the guy next to me to throw a $50 bet down and I'd give him the money, but he says no. Was this a dumb move because it would attract attention or should I have just walked away? I didn't think because I had a beer in hand and don't really think I would strike the pit as someone who counts, but you never know. BTW I hope he lost his next hand. Walk around a bit more jumping in and out of shoes, mostly liking the 3rd base spot and I go down a few hundred. What else is new?


After doing some dumb plays at the NL hold'em I try to get back in the action.
Now I know that we all here know how much the plops think they know everything, but I reallly didn't notice it as much as I did last night. Usuallly you catch the one guy at the table getting all pissed off at your index plays and what not. Last night I hit my 12 vs dealer 3 and 3 people at the table stop the dealer from giving me a card and try to tell me the "correct" way to play the hand. I try explaining its a bs move, but the one guy says "you gotta look at ALL the cards on the table, not just what you got". What a dummy. Count was slightly neg. too. Dealer hits my 12 and I get a 10 for the bust. Who's the dummy now? I actually don't think I saw anyone ever hit a 12 vs 3 last night.

By about 5am the tables are clearing out so I sit down and play heads up at a 10$ min table and start winning back some of the losses. Go to cash out and by the time I decide I want to play more, the entire thing is packed. SH*T. Call it a night and head home as the sun is starting to come up.

One more thing I noticed was that EVERYONE thinks there is a special flow of the cards. I must have heard at least once at every table I went to.

 

[moo321]

If someone's gonna bitch about you playing BS, tell them to shut the hell up and play their own hand. I'm not taking crap from any stupid ploppy when I'm making the correct play. An index play I can kind of understand, so I wouldn't be as likely to get an attitude. But call them stupid donkeys, and maybe they'll leave.

 

[Knox]

I just ignore them, act like I don't hear them. It sounds like you are playing in very poor overcrowded conditions. Next time check into an airline ticket to somewhere worth playing.

 

[EasyRhino]

The other day there was a civilian at the table. Fairly cool guy, and he mostly knew the BS. Even commented on how he was sick of other players telling him what to do. However, he really wanted to hit his 13s vs 2s and 3s (he was not counting).

So, needless to say, dealer starts showing a 2, I have a 12, and he shows his hand to me and asks "should I hit this 13??"

"... you have 14."

"Oh, never mind."

...I was drinking for the most part, but I can count while drinking so its good cover.

That's a good point. I bet no one suspected you of drinking at all.

 

[rollem411]

I just ignore them, act like I don't hear them. It sounds like you are playing in very poor overcrowded conditions. Next time check into an airline ticket to somewhere worth playing.

Yea, most of the time, the tables are pretty crowded and it seems like I lose mostly at full tables, but it's only an hour drive so if I were to add in expenses for a trip to decent conditions, I think it would just cancel out. Plus I'm heading back on tuesday or wed. of this week and I hope I can hit a few $10 min tables and it not be nearly as crowded. BTW I don't feel like finding the other posts, but Bally's was all S17 games.

The other day there was a civilian at the table. Fairly cool guy, and he mostly knew the BS. Even commented on how he was sick of other players telling him what to do. However, he really wanted to hit his 13s vs 2s and 3s (he was not counting).

So, needless to say, dealer starts showing a 2, I have a 12, and he shows his hand to me and asks "should I hit this 13??"

"... you have 14."

"Oh, never mind."


That's a good point. I bet no one suspected you of drinking at all.

Did you mean counting and not drinking? Or are you saying that because I tried stepping in a 50$ min shoe, it wasn't really a good cover.

 

[EasyRhino]

Naw, I just misread your sentence the first time I read it, and preferred it more my way.

Actually, I applaud your efforts to get the random ploppy at the table to accept your team bet. Although if he was horrible at basic strategy it could have proved costly.

Plus... you're in AC. While I've never had the privilege of playing there, what are they going to do to you? Hell, it's not like you were even trying to give them a player's card for a one-hand wong-in, so it's not like they'd know your name.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

I wouldn't recommend interacting with civilians like that, especially in AC. Got screwed once and I'll never do it again. Don't put yourself in a position where you have to trust them, much better to put them in a position where they have to trust you. You know you are going to keep up your end of the deal.

$50 min tables are almost always NMS. If you're in conditions where you can't Wong in or if you aren't prepared to play a $50 min bet in a Wong-out game, I'd say conditions are unplayable, go to another store or come back another time.

 

[aslan]

Last night I hit my 12 vs dealer 3 and 3 people at the table stop the dealer from giving me a card and try to tell me the "correct" way to play the hand. I try explaining its a bs move, but the one guy says "you gotta look at ALL the cards on the table, not just what you got". What a dummy. Count was slightly neg. too. Dealer hits my 12 and I get a 10 for the bust. Who's the dummy now? I actually don't think I saw anyone ever hit a 12 vs 3 last night.

The only time I am overly concerned with the 12vs2,3 play is when the count is high. I'll be da*ned if I'll hit it, no matter what the ploppies say. But for the most part I see it as a marginal play. Sometimes I'll ask people at the table if it is all right if I hit ny 12vs2,3. They usually say, "It's your money." But once in a while someone will tell me never to hit a 12 against a dealer 2 thru 6. It'll screw up the whole table! I'll go along with them since it's so marginal, and if it's +5 it's the right play anyway. Besides, it's good cover asking the know all ploppies what to do. Heck, sometimes I have dealers taking enough interest in me that they try to steer me to the correct BS play every hand. I must appear to them like I just got off the bus. Sometimes life is good!

 

[jack.jackson]

If someone's gonna bitch about you playing BS, tell them to shut the hell up and play their own hand. I'm not taking crap from any stupid ploppy when I'm making the correct play. An index play I can kind of understand, so I wouldn't be as likely to get an attitude. But call them stupid donkeys, and maybe they'll leave.

I just remind myself, that it's their money im taking!....lol

I can only Imagine how often the ploppys sit there and argue with each other...lol

 

[dangeroso]

So, needless to say, dealer starts showing a 2, I have a 12, and he shows his hand to me and asks "should I hit this 13??"

"... you have 14."

"Oh, never mind."

:laugh:

It reminds me of a time playing a $10 table at the Luxor in Vegas. It was me, a guy playing with a BS card in his hand, and a another guy and his girlfriend. The girl gets dealt a 5 card 20, and taps for another card. The dealer says, "You have 20". She stares at the cards for a second, and then says, "I'll stay with that."