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BradRod

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I have been turning down player cards and comps at many places I have been playing because I do want to have my name be known in case of getting backed off or 1/2 shoed. (That is the worst thing that has happened to me so far in about 3800 hours as an AP ).

The problem of course is that I am giving up on a ton a comps and it also raises suspicion when I am playing for long hours in a place and refuse to get a player card. So I thought I would get an ID for use while playing. I have found a site called - FakeIDGroup.com. Has anybody had any experience with them. Anyone else play under an alias ?
 
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BlackJackHack

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ID's

Frankly, I'm amazed that you've played for 3800 hours without getting players' cards with fake names on them. It took me a hell of a lot less than 3800 hours to realize their value.

Getting a player's card is the single best cover play you can ever make and it doesn't cost you any EV. In fact, it brings you positive EV (i.e., comps) of around 1 unit per hour (if your average bet is 2.5 units, you play 100 hands per hour, the casino assumes you are an average player who plays at a 2% disadvantage to the house, and the casino comps you at 20% of its expected win, you should get about 1 unit per hour in comps). While, in my view, cover is the more important reason to use a card, an additional unit of +EV per hour is nothing to sneeze at when your expected EV is probably somewhere between 2 and 3 units per hour.

Using a player's card with your real name on it is a dumb idea, for reasons you have discussed.

While I don't think it makes much sense to go into detail on a public board about the process of getting player cards with phony names on them, I will venture to say that if you are not resourceful or clever enough to figure out how to do this, you should not be pursuing advantage play for anything more than nominal stakes.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
Until Govt. 'REAL ID' becomes universal...

... any source of novelty ID is acceptable for obtaining Pcards, but its cheapest to do your own - obtain software, scan real ID, change details, change text & color so not to be counterfit, insert photo, laminate, go. zg
 
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MJ

Member
Question for Zen about the fake id website

Is FakeIdgroup.com a legitimate website? What do you think? I am looking to get a fake id myself just for the sake of privacy when I play at the tables. I need a comp card too but do not want to show my real id.

The ID has to look somewhat real no?

By the way I liked your idea of not splitting aces to obtain a "super sequence" for the next shoe. How is it working for you? Thanks.

-MJ
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
fakeidgroup.com looks legit...

... BUT WAY OVER-PRICED when you see how easy it is to make the laminated variety at home.

My Ace-prediction methods work great for 2D games, including the not splitting Aces with small bets out against 2-6. I don't think that I could do A-prediction in 6D games. zg
 
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Alexost

New Member
Question for ZG

Do you straight count and supplement with ace prediction? I'm working on adding ace sequencing to supplement my count game when a sequence-able situation arises. I'm planning on trying this in Reno and downtown vegas, single and double deck. I've read the Cookbook, Shuffle tracking treatise on bjmath, and quite a few posts on the subject. Do you know of anything else out there that has accurate sequencing information? Thanks!
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
Ace prediction is simple...

... just note the key card preceeding the Ace(s) and move to 2 max bets right after the key card emerges. zg
 
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Alexost

New Member
More questions-

Do you vary your strategy depending on the type of shuffle? Aren't some shuffles not worth sequencing?
I know it can be as simple as you're describing but don't we need to keep more factors in mind?

Thanks for you time ZG.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

Banned
Answer -

Q: I know [Ace prediction] can be as simple as you're describing but don't we need to keep more factors in mind?
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A: NO, not in 1-2D games. A-prediction is NOT shuffle-tracking.
See this discussion thread - (Dead link: http://www.cardcounter.com/main.pl?read=13343)
 
Automatic Monkey

Automatic Monkey

Banned
Still missing something here

Saying that the ace will come out after the key card is like saying that a bus will come after the previous bus- sure... but when? Wouldn't it be more efficient to predict the exact location of the ace (4 cards after the key card for two riffles, 8 cards after the key card for three riffles, etc.) and put down a much larger bet on the hand, using multiple hands to steer the ace toward you or away from the dealer as necessary?
 
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